In response to:

https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/34781

I propose two new vessels in between the Behemoth and the Goliath:

Kestrel

Cost: 5 million credits
Cargo capacity: 200
Armor: 40,000
Shields: 25% that of Goliath
Docking bay
Weaponry: 2L ports, 1 turret port
12/8/12/12/8

Adversary

Cost: 15 million credits
Cargo capacity: 300
Armor: 55,000
Shields: 50% that of Goliath
Docking bay
Weaponry: 3L ports, 2 turret ports
13/9/13/13/9

For purchase only.

I'm not at all certain about these numbers, I just wanted to get something up for the sake of discussion. The other thread seemed to beg the question: is it really that the Goliath is too difficult to manufacture, or is there room for an additional line of ships between the Behemoth and the Goliath in the range of 5 - 15 million credits?

I am also aware that this isn't a new idea:

https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/26474

However, it is new in the context of the Goliath freighter.

"Kestrel" - you've played too much FTL, I see.

Should ships smaller than the goliath really have sheilds? Besides that, +1.

50m and 150m, no turrets.

why no turrets? turrets, despite their issues, are great for giving new pilots something to play with in your ship, as well as helping these ships survive.

+1

+1

Great idea! I'm not so sure about 50m and 150m, but the price could go up a bit. I think it should be a price that would require several days if not weeks to save up, if starting from scratch.

+1

+1 this idea is great.

+1

This has been suggested several times. VO really could use corvette class ships. Keep in mind - the blurb on the Goliath states that it is the smallest vessel equipped with both a shield generator and a docking bay. So logically anything smaller than a Goliath in keeping with canon will have to be stripped of these, unless the devs want to retcon.

I like the idea myself, dunno about the stats. As for the Goliath being the smallest vessel ecquipped with both a shield generator and a docking bay. That only means it is CURRENTLY the smallest, not that it is impossible to build one smaller.

I like the idea but there needs to be discussion regarding Battery, strafe, top speed, turbo & acceleration.

Really the first one having a docking bat seems pointless as yes could carry a fighter but then there is not enough cargo room for anything else to useful. The only real advantage it offers is botting with shields. I would say remove the docking bay and bump cargo to 300. Again the other specs really need top be discussed. I would say Top Speed 190 and strafe similar to a Aeolus light moth. Uses standard ship batteries. Bump armor to 75k.

The second one looks more interesting and way more useful. Again I would say bump the cargo to say 350 that way you can carry a heavy ship and still get 100 cargo. Even with the ec to xc trick you would only gain 50CU which I think is acceptable considering the price of the ship. Top Speed 170, Strafe similar to Regular Moth/Xc, new Small Capship battery 1k/60 recharge. Bump armor to 125k. That would justify the 15 mill price to me.

Like I said, ultimately the devs will have to clarify what constitutes what they want as canon. Until then we can debate semantics all we want; currently the Goliath blurb is: "TPG's Goliath-class light freighter is a small, maneuverable, and utilitarian capital-scale ship, and the smallest vessel on the market with a shield generator and a docking bay."

As for the proposed stats, having 2-3L ports per vessel would give it a needed combative edge against the others, but probably throw the rest of the universe out of balance, as what happened similarly in the first 48 hours after the Goliath launch.

EDIT: Wash's stuff sounds good.

Corvette class ships aside (+1), it's amazing what desires can inspire here.

Some posts edited

https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/31059

I like it, but don't slap a docking bay on every new ship we get. At least one of these should not have a docking bay, possibly both, depending on the size they end up being. Definitely +1 to them having shields.

All ships should have shields that is just a given with any other space game but maybe that is for another thread

Drevent, Incarnate already explained why that definently WOULDNT work in Vendetta Online because of its focus on fighter-to-fighter combat and twitch gameplay with no insta-hit or randomized gambling mechanics.

is there any sort of license reqs or anything? this shouldnt really be a F2P thing. -1 to the docks but +1 to everything else. i just dont see a ship this small having a dock.