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latos N2 ship trade

Sep 18, 2016 xperia link
Allow trade of nation ships via latos N2, with same lic reqs, but no standing cap
Sep 18, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
-1 That would be abused in seconds of being implemented.
Sep 18, 2016 greenwall link
+1 it's not abuse if it's permitted
Sep 18, 2016 Eyvindr link
-1

They are nation specific ships for a reason.
Sep 18, 2016 joylessjoker link
-1

This would defeat the whole purpose of national exclusivity and diversity. The nationality choice at start of a character has to be meaningful otherwise you might as well as get rid of it and just choose the color of name that you start with.
Sep 18, 2016 bojansplash link
-1
Sep 19, 2016 Faille Corvelle link
-1

As joyless said, Nation selection should be meaningful.
Sep 19, 2016 SkinWalker link
-1
Sep 20, 2016 xperia link
Ok then, so no trade of Scps, X-1s or udvs, but what about Svgs ibgs and wtds!
Sep 20, 2016 xperia link
Wrong sign!=?
Sep 20, 2016 Eyvindr link
Stop being lazy and work on your standing to get IBGs/SVGs/WTDs.
Sep 20, 2016 morgan link
+1 Space magic is dumb
Sep 20, 2016 Faille Corvelle link
It's no more "Space Magic" than me not being able to buy a gun at a pawn shop in Aus. Nation specific ships are a controlled technology. That doesn't make it space magic.
Sep 20, 2016 Savet link
I'm going to +1 this because the faction restriction is a little silly as currently implemented. Think about this... We've made it to space...colonized the universe...but we have reverted to institutionalized racism that says you can never become a naturalized citizen capable of joining another nation's military?

The fact that people can make characters of all races simply means that they will make another character who may or may not be alt-separated. Meanwhile, we have completely handicapped a playstyle of "changing sides."

Tax the transaction.
Apply a penalty to standing.
Murder their first born.

Punish them in some way, but stop gimping the tiny economy we could have by refusing to allow ship trading.
Sep 21, 2016 bojansplash link
@Savet

How about you re-read the backstory?

Current faction system allows Itani/Serco nation individuals to gain +600 respect with another nation at the cost of dropping their own nation standing. That's enough to gain access to some of the faction specific gear but not the top of the line ships. Imho this is more then fine.
Currently Serco/Itani with +600 standing with the opposing nation can buy SVG/IBG/WTD at Latos N-2 provided someone sold those ships there and they are in stock.
Heck, someone could create a nice business venture by mass (trident) hauling those nation specific ships to N-2 and selling them to interested buyers by charging extra for "shipping & handling".

In the old times before faction redux we had the dreaded 13 gold bars situation, everyone was POS everywhere, Itani were flying SCPs, Sercos were flying Valks and UIT were flying everything.
Itani camped Serco space, killed unsuspecting Sercos, do a quick standing fix, rinse and repeat and Serco did the same on the opposite side.
It was a completely screwed up mess and I don't think, in spite of how it might look appealing to get your hands on any available nation specific ship regardless of your nation, players would like what will inevitably happen.
It took Raging John 10 long years to introduce faction redux that at least had some sense and now you want to break it down just so you could fly other nations top tier ship.

Yeah, I know, asking for you to be patient to see a new gamma of nation specific ships be introduced in VO that will negate the need to lust for those SCPs or X-1s is tough but... still a better thing then breaking down the existing faction system.

iF you want to just change sides (defect), send a support ticket and ask devs to change your nation. There are not so many players doing this so you should get your nation change within 48 hours.
Sep 21, 2016 lalala link
+1 because before the redux people were atleast having fun.

roll in ship trading. allow it. make it hard. but make it possible.
Sep 22, 2016 Xeha link
-1
Sep 22, 2016 PaKettle link
I would rather see players allowed to change race long before I would want to go back to the old everything available style of play. At best ships made available to players outside of normal restrictions should cost twice as much as normal if not more.

The faction redux finally made which race you chose have a small amount of meaning. Those differences need to be increased, not lessened.