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Since there is already a mission test that must be completed before players are able to buy the top of
line Valk X1, then why should there not be a similar mission before players are able to buy the top of line SCP.
Fair is fair.
line Valk X1, then why should there not be a similar mission before players are able to buy the top of line SCP.
Fair is fair.
+1
The SCP and X1 aren't equivalents- the previous top-of-the-line valk (the IDF?) had its model squished a little and that became the X1. It's a further upgrade that Serco don't have, to my knowledge.
But by all means, introduce an upgraded SkyCommand and a mission to go with it!
But by all means, introduce an upgraded SkyCommand and a mission to go with it!
Make it the turret-prom.
+1 UD
-1 to idiot noobs shooting their mouths off before understanding how the game has (not) developed
-1 to idiot noobs shooting their mouths off before understanding how the game has (not) developed
I just love those idiots who talk so much trash about anyone that makes a post they don't agree with.
Hey, we're just answering your stupid question: why should there not be a similar mission before players are able to buy the top of line SCP
If a test was required for the IDF Valk (or the SCP was a special model added recently to compensate for the shortcomings of the prior top-line Serco ship), you'd have a point. It isn't and you don't, which makes you the idiot in this thread.
Ta-ta, nooblet.
If a test was required for the IDF Valk (or the SCP was a special model added recently to compensate for the shortcomings of the prior top-line Serco ship), you'd have a point. It isn't and you don't, which makes you the idiot in this thread.
Ta-ta, nooblet.
How ridiculous. As if the Skyprom needs an upgrade. Who gives three fucks if the IDF and SCP were ONCE both the top of the line ships at the same time? I mean, besides Dr. Retard and his father/uncle.
Whoosh
Just for you, Greenwall, I want the Serco to have to do an X-1 like combat mission test...
and be granted access to the SCP of 8 or 9 years ago, before it was beaten with the nerf bat some half dozen times because Itani kept crying about how the SCP raped their poor little potato valks every time they tried to take one on 1v1 in a dogfight. Then you'll really have something to whine about.
It's quite arguable that the reason everyone is pissed about how OP the valk is now is because of that over-nerfing: while the valk has been granted a slimmer profile in the X-1 and burdened only with a measley 100kg extra mass over the years, the SCP has had its armor, thrust, and spin torque all drastically slashed in the name of making the dominant heads-up combat ship a little more balanced in 1v1 fights (which it was never intended to be balanced in to begin with). If you want to keep whining about the prom, let's slash 1/3 off the valk's turbo and non-turbo thrust, making it just as nerfed at hit and run as the current SCP is nerfed at standup fights.
and be granted access to the SCP of 8 or 9 years ago, before it was beaten with the nerf bat some half dozen times because Itani kept crying about how the SCP raped their poor little potato valks every time they tried to take one on 1v1 in a dogfight. Then you'll really have something to whine about.
It's quite arguable that the reason everyone is pissed about how OP the valk is now is because of that over-nerfing: while the valk has been granted a slimmer profile in the X-1 and burdened only with a measley 100kg extra mass over the years, the SCP has had its armor, thrust, and spin torque all drastically slashed in the name of making the dominant heads-up combat ship a little more balanced in 1v1 fights (which it was never intended to be balanced in to begin with). If you want to keep whining about the prom, let's slash 1/3 off the valk's turbo and non-turbo thrust, making it just as nerfed at hit and run as the current SCP is nerfed at standup fights.
Er yeah, fair is fair; delete the X1, since the Itani get an extra ship.
Stupid threads ahoy!
Stupid threads ahoy!
The X-1 is not OP, the SCP is not OP, get over it now. They do different functions better. Deleting ships is not the answer.
Get rid of both of them so there is nothing to complain about.
Let all liberal idiots fly EC89's to be the only ship available to everyone in the name of fairness and get rid of every other ship except moth XC's
LOL
Oh but wait thats not fair boo hoo he has bigger cargo hold so get rid of that too.
Let all liberal idiots fly EC89's to be the only ship available to everyone in the name of fairness and get rid of every other ship except moth XC's
LOL
Oh but wait thats not fair boo hoo he has bigger cargo hold so get rid of that too.
There are so many strawmen in this thread the only option is to burn it all to the ground.
God damn, does anyone actually read what they're responding to any more?
God damn, does anyone actually read what they're responding to any more?
I find it very funny that there is such vehement opposition to simply adding a mission requirement for SCP access; as if the OP was suggesting a TTM-like manufacturing process. In reality it would be something like a ~10 minute test pilot mission or something.
p.s. -- I also find it funny how naive and old timey Capt86 made himself look.
FYI:
Liberal (adj): open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
p.s. -- I also find it funny how naive and old timey Capt86 made himself look.
FYI:
Liberal (adj): open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
Do you not understand why this thread was made? It comes down to "I don't like the SCP, and one of my ships requires a mission to get, so make them do a mission too." There's no vehement opposition. Ideally, I'd like every ship, weapon, addon and license level to require a mission, but adding this particular one in because of some petulant swipe at Serco is idiotic. It's a huge project that should be discussed on its own merits.
Am I just getting annoyed at people who are intentionally trying to annoy, or are there actually players so invested in this that they don't see why this thread is ridiculous?
Am I just getting annoyed at people who are intentionally trying to annoy, or are there actually players so invested in this that they don't see why this thread is ridiculous?
The X-1 is not OP, the SCP is not OP, get over it now.
The difference is that the X-1 is an improved variant of a ship that has never been seriously nerfed -- because making a case for hit and run ability being OP is harder than making the case for 'ZOMG, I get in a prom's face and die 100 times out of 100!' being OP -- while the SCP in its current incarnation has been nerfed 5 or 6 times since I joined in 2005.
I find it very funny that there is such vehement opposition to simply adding a mission requirement for SCP access
The whole premise of the thread, however, rests on a false assumption that the SCP and the X1 are equivalent ships. They are not, because the Itani were gifted with an upgraded version of their SCP equivalent, the IDF, while the Serco were gifted with nothing more than a couple more rounds of the nerf bat on the SCP. The vehement opposition is to allowing that kind of loud stupidity to pass unchallenged, not to doing a fucking mission.
The difference is that the X-1 is an improved variant of a ship that has never been seriously nerfed -- because making a case for hit and run ability being OP is harder than making the case for 'ZOMG, I get in a prom's face and die 100 times out of 100!' being OP -- while the SCP in its current incarnation has been nerfed 5 or 6 times since I joined in 2005.
I find it very funny that there is such vehement opposition to simply adding a mission requirement for SCP access
The whole premise of the thread, however, rests on a false assumption that the SCP and the X1 are equivalent ships. They are not, because the Itani were gifted with an upgraded version of their SCP equivalent, the IDF, while the Serco were gifted with nothing more than a couple more rounds of the nerf bat on the SCP. The vehement opposition is to allowing that kind of loud stupidity to pass unchallenged, not to doing a fucking mission.
Dr. Lecter, your entire premise of the 'SCP being less of a ship than the X1 because they didn't get the same amount of nerfs' rests on a false assumption that they were perfectly balanced with eachother upon their introduction. I'd be very interested to see if anyone else who possesses full brain functionality agrees with that.
And UncleDave, there is nothing in the OP about not liking the SCP. You just made that up. The OP states very clearly that both Itani and Serco should have similar requirements to get the top-of-the-line ship.
And UncleDave, there is nothing in the OP about not liking the SCP. You just made that up. The OP states very clearly that both Itani and Serco should have similar requirements to get the top-of-the-line ship.
Greenwall uses Rags. - "Upgrade Rags!"
Greenwall encounters SCPs - "Make SCP harder to get"
Anyway, all Itanis are hypocrites and I guarantee this thread was born right after a smurf lost to an SCP in face to face, 1v1 combat.Sure in 1v1 an x1 dies to a prom, but even 2 of any Valk variants have no trouble with a single prom.The only, the Only thing the Valk cant win is a 1v1 against a prom, and youre crying about thag? Just - fucking - ridicilous.
Greenwall encounters SCPs - "Make SCP harder to get"
Anyway, all Itanis are hypocrites and I guarantee this thread was born right after a smurf lost to an SCP in face to face, 1v1 combat.Sure in 1v1 an x1 dies to a prom, but even 2 of any Valk variants have no trouble with a single prom.The only, the Only thing the Valk cant win is a 1v1 against a prom, and youre crying about thag? Just - fucking - ridicilous.
Greenwall eats Shatterdome. /wins