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flamebait, capital ships, and the newbie
Thats not flamebait. Starting a thread named "Manson is innocent" or something, now that would be flamebait.
Not flamebait at all, but if you really want a flame kindled I'll do my best.
We've talked about capital ships alot before, and most of us agree with everything you've said. Err...
That's the best I can do.
I'll look around and see if I can find you some links to some of the better threads so you can get up to speed with what the rest of the community thinks. Since you already seem to have covered most of the major points, you seem to me like the sort of thoughtful person that could really add something to the discussion.
Capital Ship Threads:
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=2314
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=424
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=2311
Also it wouldn't hurt to read the 'toys' thread:
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=1494
PS: There is a heavy bias in the above threads for 'my threads', and my threads are not the only takes on capital ships or the future direction of this game.
We've talked about capital ships alot before, and most of us agree with everything you've said. Err...
That's the best I can do.
I'll look around and see if I can find you some links to some of the better threads so you can get up to speed with what the rest of the community thinks. Since you already seem to have covered most of the major points, you seem to me like the sort of thoughtful person that could really add something to the discussion.
Capital Ship Threads:
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=2314
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=424
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=2311
Also it wouldn't hurt to read the 'toys' thread:
http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=1494
PS: There is a heavy bias in the above threads for 'my threads', and my threads are not the only takes on capital ships or the future direction of this game.
Well, looks like I did dig up a few old things, without knowing of prior existence (down with software patents). Is there anywhere I could go with current info on the status of capital ship ideas, and future implimentations?
I guess I'm expecting a fairly open development model. As the end goal is a commercial product, I don't expect the development model to be as open as say the Linux kernel is... as nice as that would be.
Another useful thing here.. a search engine for the threads.
I guess I'm expecting a fairly open development model. As the end goal is a commercial product, I don't expect the development model to be as open as say the Linux kernel is... as nice as that would be.
Another useful thing here.. a search engine for the threads.
As I've not been playing vendetta for long, and haven't had the oppritunity to really explore without getting blown out of space, or read the 6,000+ posts in just the suggestions thread alone, I hope any ignorance on my part will be overlooked.
I have gleaned that there will be a very dynamic economy in Vendetta, debates over destroyable outposts, as well as a few other nifty ideas. I've given the capital ships idea a bit of thought.
First, we would need classes of capitol ships, ranging from (relatively) small gunboats, up to dreadnought and larger ships.. possibly 3 or 5 classes of capital ships. Gunboats could be purchased by individuals who are rich enough, but I feel that these should be the only ones that can be purchased outright. Larger ships could be provided by governments, guilds, cartels, etc. on a lease or rewards basis... possibly stolen outright as well.
What the capital ships could provide is
a place for repairs, trading, etc like a mobile outpost
A heck of a lot of firepower, allowing multiple targets to be engaged at once.. (I don't know about you, but I aint too good at shooting at 5 ships at the same time)
Teamwork and command structure. With the larger capital ships, one person shouldn't need to cover all aspects of the ship's operation in combat such as manning turrets, and flight... nor should a huge capial ship be simple enough to be run by one individual (AI help may be useful if there aren't enough people to fully man a ship)
How would they fit into the economy? Well, as far as sales of goods goes, trading only could be permitted, or goods on ship would be independant of the economic structure. The ships themselves could only be constructed once an organisation is able to afford a shipyard. Building ships of this sort would impact their ability to provide goods elsewhere, by effectively reducing the resources available. It should also be very time consuming, (not 6 months realtime, but not instant gratification either)
Well, I guess capital shipbuilding would add a completely new trade into the Vendetta universe, and might be too much info going over the net for a poor dialup customer like myself to be able to cope with. But it could make wars involving a great many players all that more interesting.
Well, there's my flamebait. Take it as you will.
I have gleaned that there will be a very dynamic economy in Vendetta, debates over destroyable outposts, as well as a few other nifty ideas. I've given the capital ships idea a bit of thought.
First, we would need classes of capitol ships, ranging from (relatively) small gunboats, up to dreadnought and larger ships.. possibly 3 or 5 classes of capital ships. Gunboats could be purchased by individuals who are rich enough, but I feel that these should be the only ones that can be purchased outright. Larger ships could be provided by governments, guilds, cartels, etc. on a lease or rewards basis... possibly stolen outright as well.
What the capital ships could provide is
a place for repairs, trading, etc like a mobile outpost
A heck of a lot of firepower, allowing multiple targets to be engaged at once.. (I don't know about you, but I aint too good at shooting at 5 ships at the same time)
Teamwork and command structure. With the larger capital ships, one person shouldn't need to cover all aspects of the ship's operation in combat such as manning turrets, and flight... nor should a huge capial ship be simple enough to be run by one individual (AI help may be useful if there aren't enough people to fully man a ship)
How would they fit into the economy? Well, as far as sales of goods goes, trading only could be permitted, or goods on ship would be independant of the economic structure. The ships themselves could only be constructed once an organisation is able to afford a shipyard. Building ships of this sort would impact their ability to provide goods elsewhere, by effectively reducing the resources available. It should also be very time consuming, (not 6 months realtime, but not instant gratification either)
Well, I guess capital shipbuilding would add a completely new trade into the Vendetta universe, and might be too much info going over the net for a poor dialup customer like myself to be able to cope with. But it could make wars involving a great many players all that more interesting.
Well, there's my flamebait. Take it as you will.
How is that flamebait? It's a nice, well thought out argument, and I applaud you for it... Welcome to the boards!
we need more noobs to post so thankyou for that.
I have faith in the devs and what they plan for the future(whatever mysterious things they may be planning only they and the spy from the garbage truck know)So I will hope that they have some ideas that are like this.
I have faith in the devs and what they plan for the future(whatever mysterious things they may be planning only they and the spy from the garbage truck know)So I will hope that they have some ideas that are like this.
yes i acctually was gonna ask for that...
good idea
-io
good idea
-io