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Decrease swarm's manueverabillity

May 02, 2013 Snake7561 link
So you can actually dodge them.
May 02, 2013 Dr. Lecter link
What is it with noobs and nerf solutions to skill problems?
May 02, 2013 Snake7561 link
It's not a skill problem. Just that having to run away from them every time is annoying. Nearly everyone runs away from them because they're impossible to dodge.
May 02, 2013 SkinWalker link
Swarms are super easy to dodge. When they kill me it's usually because I got cocky and too close.
May 02, 2013 draugath link
Swarms are not impossible to dodge. Learn how to fly.
May 02, 2013 DE-1414n link
A light fighter can out maneuver swarms, using only combat speed, without using turbo. Wait until the swarms are close, and move to the side of the swarms, and then to the rear of the swarms. It will take a while for the swarms to loop back around. Some ships other than light fighters can also out maneuver swarms, depending on ship and load. A rag will probable never out maneuver swarms on combat speed alone. Swarms are great for making rags run, but mostly worthless against skilled pilots in light fighter ships.
May 02, 2013 Dr. Lecter link
having to run away from them

Assumes facts not in evidence. Indeed, assumes blatantly incorrect facts. Yes, it's easy enough to screw up while dodging them and eat a face of spam. But that's your fault, not the swarms' inherent undodgableness.
May 02, 2013 Kierky link
Lol swarms. They're weak enough as it is.
May 02, 2013 Phaserlight link
I can confirm the effectiveness of the 'J' dodge in avoiding swarms.
May 02, 2013 tarenty link
Strafe one way and backward, switch to the opposite when the swarms are close and roll.
May 03, 2013 Pizzasgood link
People who think turboing around like a ninny is essential to dealing with swarms crack me up. Especially when I meet them while I'm in a moth trying to collect some loot.
May 03, 2013 TheRedSpy link
Any reasonably combat capable ship (including all prom variants) can effortlessly dodge swarms without turbo. Turbo is only necessary to avoid re-fire swarms (the ones that come around after the initial fire) and that's only the case where you are not able to turn your back on the swarmer to perform the proper strafe manuver at the swarms.

In most cases swarmers are newbs anyway and make a plethora of mistakes when using the swarms giving the enemy all sorts of opportunities to slaughter them.

Also, the usual blabber about swarms: There is no swarm usage scenario (aside from dumbfiring the swarms) where the success of swarming won't be entirely dependent on your enemy making a mistake or a choice to get hit by the swarms. You pay dearly for the guidance of the swarms in weight and in ammo. If you enter a fight using swarms you are a sitting duck.
May 03, 2013 vskye link
Another dumb ass idea.

-1000000000000000000
May 03, 2013 Lord~spidey link
swarms are easy as tits to dodge.

unless you're in something like a rag or a centaur.
May 03, 2013 Chaosis link
Do a barrel roll, noob.
May 03, 2013 tarenty link
necessary to avoid re-fire swarms

Nope. Use your radar and your ears.
May 07, 2013 SkinWalker link
One good use of swarms, at least against mediocre players, is to make the opponent more predictable.

Fire the swarms, strafe around into their trails and fire at the opponent with an LENB or Raven while they try to both avoid the swarms and take sights on you. By strafing into the trails, you put the swarms in front of you and the other pilot has to choose between aiming at you (and flying into the swarms) or continuing to dodge (in which case they're flying a more predictable path).

Most of the time this doesn't work well on more seasoned players.