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Make Hive a player "Nation"

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Dec 01, 2011 Conflict Diamond link
I know this has been suggested before, or at least that players could fly bots, but I'm talking about a whole new "Nation" choice.

Maybe this is best aimed at VO 2.0 or beyond, but I've always thought it would be awesome to have a very different player experience by playing a Hive AI. you start out as a Kannik Collector and as you gain levels, your "core" is authorized for bigger and badder bots, weapons, add-ons, etc. Imagine Hive skirmishes if there were a player presence on the bot side. Imagine if ever we get more non-hive bot activity in faction space, that high level hive players could "turn" good bots to fly as escort to the player bot as the LAR bots (only with a few useful commands like attack my target, cease fire, defend me, follow me, etc.). All kinds of fun stuff could be unique to Hive at the expense of the limitations inherent in flying only drone craft.

Discuss...
Dec 01, 2011 blood.thirsty link
admit it hun ye only wanna grief newbs in a kannick collector : )
Dec 01, 2011 Conflict Diamond link
Curses! Foiled again!
Dec 02, 2011 mrGarvin link
This might be a cool idea but I think we should be able to choose a different faction first, i.e. TPG, Axia etc..
Dec 02, 2011 CrazySpence link
this idea is awesome, instead of stations you could spawn from a queen!
Dec 02, 2011 EddyHolland link
even better - you could dock the queen.
From the rear.
I tried it - didn't pull it off with a nation character. Now, with a hive character ...
Dec 02, 2011 Alloh link
+1

I really would like to be able to have a Hive Bot Alt... homed in a Levi or Queen, with missions as "Defend our Queen", "Save the Levi", "Get N scrap crates from ships", "mine ore X", "Seek a new home for our queen", "Stalk in Storms", "Defend the collectors from those carboniites"...

Bots don't have to be better at nothing... it is enough to have a DIFFERENT gameplay. Everybody can have more than an alt...
Dec 02, 2011 Conflict Diamond link
This might be a cool idea but I think we should be able to choose a different faction first, i.e. TPG, Axia etc..

Which is why I said 2.0 or beyond. This concept would require a lot of new content, so I'd expect it would take as much time and community support as player cappies took/are taking (i.e. years & years). It has been on my mind that long already, just wanted to kick it around with the forum trawlers.

Maybe you respawn at the nearest Levi, and if that levi dies, you asplode? (and if all 3 are dead you have to wait!) Yes, docking with queens would be how you repair, re-equip, and deliver mission goods.

What if your core AI could spawn at any of the 3 levis, so you could transfer between hives?

You would be KOS in all nation space, so moving out of Rhamus or Metana would be... challenging.

I could see a mission to escort a new queen into the adjacent systems when needed to expand that hive...

You wouldn't use money or have inventory, you just get authorized to equip certain hive gear from queens and Levi's.

It'd be a little like playing Zerg in Starcraft... only, y'know: bots.
Dec 02, 2011 mrGarvin link
Hmm. Maybe they should focus on this first instead. This will, like you said, evolve the game significantly.
Dec 02, 2011 ret369 link
+3.14*Pi LOVES IT!!!
Dec 02, 2011 blood.thirsty link
here's one of the threads ye were looking fer CD sweetie,

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/24919

hive playable should be pretty fun...that's why it will never happen in vo : ]
Dec 02, 2011 pirren link
CD, BT, +1 my friends, yarr!!!
Dec 03, 2011 Conflict Diamond link
I must fail at forum searches. I swear I entered "playable hive" and as many variations as I could think of and got nothing close to this topic. I better go +1 your thread, BT ;)
Dec 03, 2011 blood.thirsty link
even if ye had typed the exact thread title ye would have found zilch, search engine does not werk like many many other things in dat game, sweetheart : )
Dec 04, 2011 raven177 link
Unfortunately since we're all human behind the keyboard we couldn't drop the human intuition that makes us different from the AI hive. The hive uses numbers in place of it. This would break the hive and make them a super faction.
Dec 04, 2011 Growlor link
I have always wished VO had some kind of character that could direct masses of pets (ala necromancer in Diablo II) due to my serious lack of PvP skills. This might be interesting if you combined it with the ability to do basic swarm control (maybe as simple as select or adjust target priority)?
Dec 04, 2011 Pizzasgood link
I think Inc wanted to eventually do something like that with the military system.
Dec 05, 2011 Dr. Lecter link
due to my serious lack of PvP skills

Don't feel bad, Growlor - by joining [VPR] you've found a group of similarly disabled pilots.
Dec 05, 2011 Alloh link
since Hive ships are not as good as players' ones, hive players should command a swarm/cloud/wing of bots, from one sidekick collector bot to a whole court of guardians, assaults and collectors when hive player reaches 'Overseer' level.
Dec 05, 2011 CrazySpence link
Nope