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penalty for bounty hunting failure

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May 28, 2011 DeathSpores link
When a bounty hunter fails to hunt his prey and is killed while trying to recover the bounty,
Report the BH prowess on the news page and remove from him twice the xp points his victim would have lost.

Go flame this ninnies! XD
May 28, 2011 Dr. Lecter link
+1 There's currently little reason to engage a bounty hunter when RPing an outlaw (aside from splitting the loot with him), and this would help. A monetary reward for the outlaw wouldn't make any sense, but enhanced penalties for those who - purporting to represent the powers that be - get their asses handed to them while playing Batman would.
May 28, 2011 pirren link
+1, nice roleplay suggestion
May 28, 2011 ryan reign link
Pretty balanced, +1.
May 28, 2011 Pizzasgood link
+1. This will give people a reason to consider possibly not becoming a bounty hunter, since right now there's no real reason not to.
May 28, 2011 ShankTank link
If I'm correct, the general gameplay theory of Vendetta Online's all about balancing risk and reward. +1
May 28, 2011 PaKettle link
I would not go twice the xp but a penalty for both sides seems good

+1
May 29, 2011 Maalik link
Sounds good.
May 29, 2011 tarenty link
+1.

So much for flames?
May 30, 2011 space999999 link
I like it. +1
May 30, 2011 Alloh link
+1 to fail penalties
Now, there is one serious reason to everybody become a bounty hunter. You can get a reward out of nowhere for killing someone who had a bounty on his head... not a focused thing. The whole bounty system needs re-thinking, considering immortality (respawning) and location reports.

I really doubt that not more than a few of those bounties collected were actual bounty hunts. Instead, the majority of them were aleatory meetings when hunter is surprised that he got a reward after the kill, being totally unaware that his opponent had a bounty...

-1 to fail news
Also, bounty news already take almost all news area, you want more ads? Maybe a single "Daily bounty news dd/mm" instead?
May 30, 2011 drazed link
-1

This makes no sense, other then asshats like lector&co wanting to punish some poor noobs that didn't know what mission they were getting themselves into... Better off just make it harder to become a bounty hunter, having to prove yourself somehow.

There's no reason to "remove xp" from anyone, doesn't make sense that you would unlearn things... As for bounties, in a RL situation you can claim a bounty, but if someone else claims it before you you don't lose anything you just don't get anything either. If you die while trying to claim a bounty you're dead! You lost your ship, you lost some rep, etc... But everything above makes no sense from anything other then a "because we want to be asshats" viewpoint.

EDIT: the bounty system could use a complete re-working... but I don't think anything in this thread is constructive or useful as either a temp-fix or long-term fix.
May 30, 2011 pirren link
lol, newb should read mission description carefully before taking it.
May 30, 2011 endercp12 link
I do agree that losing license points makes no sense, as nothing else in VO removes experience. If we were going to remove points, then you should also remove them from the person with the bounty when killed by a bounty hunter...and im sure none of those of you who regularly have bounties want that.

Perhaps a reward system for evading bounty hunters instead?
May 30, 2011 Maalik link
Supposedly you lose xp when your bounty is resolved -- 1% off each license. I've never verified this, though.

An in-game way to stop being a bounty hunter should be added for those who don't want potential rewards coupled with risk.
May 30, 2011 pirren link
Maybe, it's better to make fixed number of XP, like 1000 or 10000?

Because looking on Ecka's 22th combat.. 1% looks really HUGE amount of xp :}

Let's say so: 1%, but not bigger than 10000 or any other number.
May 30, 2011 Pizzasgood link
Yeah, it already works that way endercp12, at least in theory. Quoting from http://www.vo-wiki.com/wiki/Bounty_Hunting :

IMPORTANT FACT: Having a bounty placed on your head, and being killed by a character with the Hunter license, will result in a 1 percent loss of skill in all areas (Combat, Light Weapons, Heavy Weapons, Mining, and so on). Again, being the "victim" of a successful bounty will lose you 1% across all skill types.

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I have not verified that this actually happens either, but I have been assuming that it does. I'll have to jot down my xp levels next time I get a bounty placed on my head and see.

And yes, there would need to be a way to resign as well, e.g. /msg "*Marshal Bob*" resign
May 30, 2011 drazed link
So how do you decide if death was a direct result of a bounty mission? Since bounty hunting is an ongoing task. Are you implying bounty hunters should lose 2% of all licenses with every death? That's more ridiculous then anything I've heard in a while. This idea is stupid.

How about just put a "default" bounty on anyone who is a bounty hunter? Some sort of "minimum" bounty that increases if you do something worthy of getting a bounty on your head? This way if a bounty hunter gets offed by another bounty hunter they loose 1% and all is fair (if this really is the case as no one seems to have verified). If you get killed by a non-bounty hunter it's same as current for bountied players.
May 30, 2011 Dr. Lecter link
So how do you decide if death was a direct result of a bounty mission? Since bounty hunting is an ongoing task. Are you implying bounty hunters should lose 2% of all licenses with every death? That's more ridiculous then anything I've heard in a while. This idea is stupid.

No, you fucking moron - they only lose 2% when they're killed by someone with an active bounty. Is that really so hard to wrap your head around?
May 30, 2011 endercp12 link
If the 1% is correct (and I assume you are all right), then I see no problem with giving the person with the bounty a reciprocal reward for killing a hunter/reciprocal danger for being a hunter. However, to avoid abuse, there would have to be a system in place where a person could not both have a bounty on their head AND be a bounty hunter at the same time.