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NFZ zone bugs/suggestions

May 08, 2011 space999999 link
When you go outside the NFZ zone by about 1000 meters, wait for another ship like a POS moth that you are by chance escorting, and start shooting it, you get a message saying that this npc is under protection of this faction. I'll try to post some screenshots of it.

Another problem is that the NFZ zone is supposed to surround the station by 1000 meters, right? in every station but corvus, that goes up to about 2500 meters. Should be 1000 meters.
May 08, 2011 meridian link
Just because you are outside of the NFZ doesn't mean you can shoot other ships still in the NFZ.
May 08, 2011 drazed link
In every station BUT corvus it's supposed to be more then 1000m. I believe it's specific to factions/stations or somesuch.

Anyhow, what you're describing above is not bugs but intended behaviors.
May 08, 2011 abortretryfail link
The "under protection of this faction" message isn't a warning about the NFZ. It's a warning that you'll suffer faction loss if you kill that ship.

Check their standing.
May 09, 2011 Alloh link
ARF, that is the warning from NFZ... and convoy NPCs are like PoS...

So, no bug but designed behaviour. Like, I just hired you to protect my goods and you are already kicking them in front of me?
May 09, 2011 Pizzasgood link
No it isn't Alloh. The NFZ message is "You have violated the local No-Fire zone regulations. Temporary Kill On Sight standing set. Leave the sector immediately, or be destroyed!", and shows up in cyan in the chat area. The "under our protection" warning that space999999 posted is for factions, and shows up in yellow in the middle of the screen and then fades out. That message has nothing at all to do with the NFZ.

The NFZ does seem to sometimes kick in if you shoot at ships who are still inside it while you are outside it, however I also have reason to believe that the actual extent of the NFZ and the NFZ indicator in the HUD do not match - I have killed ships while we were both just inside the NFZ with no consequence. I don't know if the discrepancy varies from sector to sector (perhaps even around one station?), or if the indicator always kicks in a little early as a safety precaution, and the times I triggered the NFZ from outside were just because the other ship was so far in that he was beyond that buffer zone and in the real NFZ. I suspect the latter is the case, but haven't bothered testing it.
May 09, 2011 NuriBro link
Also, convoy NPCs are not PoS.
May 09, 2011 Alloh link
Bump any ship inside NFZ, you get that message. Also if you do little damage to a NPC inside there. If you repeat damage by shooting, then you are declared TempKoS and get the message you posted...

I've seen the "under protection" a few times inside NFZs... but maybe it is related to guarded sectors, what includes the NFZ...
May 09, 2011 NuriBro link
1. Any time you damage a protected PC or NPC in a monitored or guarded sector, you will see the "under protection" message. In or out of the NFZ is not important here, and how you cause the damage doesn't matter.

2. If you shoot a PC or NPC inside a NFZ, you will see the "TempKoS set!" message. Any damage done by a weapon inside the NFZ will instantly trigger this, no matter how slight. No damage, no matter how great, inflicted by a collision or conc mine will trigger this message, up to and including a kill. Protected status is also not important to this one.

These two things may overlap (shooting a protected NPC inside a NFZ), but they are entirely unrelated.

Please know what you're talking about before posting, Alloh, because otherwise you're just confusing new players. Thank you.
May 09, 2011 Alloh link
That also can be a way to learn, and make things clear. And confusion was not only mine...

So thank you for responding the OP while addressing me...