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Behemoth model

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Aug 09, 2010 AlistairG link
As I've been using a moth lately I've been noticing how bland the model is compared to the other models in the game. I was recently browsing some models of space ships and came across this... http://www.shipschematics.net/bsg/images/colonial/shuttle_mk1.jpg
I think it would be interesting to build a model based off that to recreate the behemoth.
Aug 09, 2010 Crusader8389 link
You're thinking a capship? If so, next time include links to previous discussions.
Aug 09, 2010 ryan reign link
It seems like he's thinking a new moth model.
Aug 10, 2010 look... no hands link
the behemoth is plain for a reason, its purly utilitarian. you don;'t need alls kinds of bells and whistles just to get from A to B with a pile of cargo.
Aug 10, 2010 Alloh link
Really, the Moth is the only specialized ship in VO (not fighter).

It is a cargo ship. A box with engines...
Aug 10, 2010 tarenty link
IMHO, that ship design doesn't really fit with VO, and personally I think the Behemoth looks it's roll.
Aug 10, 2010 shlimazel link
All the ships could use remodeled, given how old they look, but without a dedicated modeler on the staff, that's not going to happen.
Aug 10, 2010 look... no hands link
I still dont understand why the ships need to be remodeled.
Aug 10, 2010 ShankTank link
Because they look like crap. I mean... good execution on some things like the Vulture, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the designs make them terrible, ugly, out-of-proportion polygons. And some are both terrible, ugly, out-of-proportion polygons and were made by teenagers with free software (see: the Centaur)... not to insult teenagers wielding free software of course.

The moth's one of the lesser offenders, for now, but hell... I'd say just slap a TPG logo where that "GAL 356" is and it would fit right in.
Aug 10, 2010 Capt.Waffles link
no new models! new ships!
Aug 10, 2010 Alloh link
+all to new ships
-1 to new models!
Aug 10, 2010 shlimazel link
Because they look like crap. I mean... good execution on some things like the Vulture, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the designs make them terrible, ugly, out-of-proportion polygons. And some are both terrible, ugly, out-of-proportion polygons and were made by teenagers with free software (see: the Centaur)... not to insult teenagers wielding free software of course.

I agree. I'd like to see new models on all the ships too. It's like the difference between the current EC and the old EC... the new one looks excellent, the old one looks like shit. It's really unfortunate that some of the least useful ships (the EC, the Revenant) are also some of the coolest looking. For me, that's why I'd like new models. I don't really think this game can become truly modern without upgrading its ship graphics.
Aug 10, 2010 AlistairG link
@Crusader: Erm, did you actually read the post?
@LNH: True, but that doesn't give it reason to look so bland. You can make a box look pretty interesting.
@Tarenty: Yep, I agree with you. That's why it should be loosely based off that, not completely bit for bit.
@Shlimazel: Very true, I did hear that they have an intern who is good with modeling. I could be mistaken.
@Capt: New ships take more working to do than just replacing the model of a few ships. Perhaps in the future new ships would be nice, but if all the newer ships look awesome and the old ones look like crap the game would appear very unorganized.

Yeah, Shlim and Shank pretty much sum the rest up for me.
Aug 10, 2010 tarenty link
Meh, that looks more like a frigate to me than something like we fly alone.

No landing gear. We have nowhere to land. >_>
Aug 11, 2010 look... no hands link
I think the new one looks totally impractical, the old one apears to give more space for the amount of building materials. that's kinda important in a FREE ship.

I see no problem whatsoever with the current models, except the raptor, again looks like it takes WAY too much resources to build. I'll be really really pissed if the current models go away entirely.
Aug 11, 2010 toshiro link
ShankTank, is that verified (the free software & teenagers thing)? I thought all original (read: alpha) models were done by Vlad...

And I do think that the Revenant has been extremely useful to nearly any new player worth her or his salt. I even use(d) it regularly when building up alts, for botting, because it is the first multi-port ship you can easily gain access to (yes, it is also the only one).
Aug 11, 2010 shlimazel link
I see no problem whatsoever with the current models, except the raptor, again looks like it takes WAY too much resources to build. I'll be really really pissed if the current models go away entirely.

Let's be clear about something-there's a big difference between a ship's model and a ship's design. The warthog's model is the nuts and bolts piece of polygons you see in game. Its design is the blueprint that makes it look like a warthog. What I personally would like to see is new models, but similar designs.

The models in game are extremely dated, and I can think of at least one, but probably more, freeware games that have superior ship models. This is a game with paying subscriptions, it should have some of the best graphics around! In terms of what new ship models with similar designs could look like, I'll link to one of the user made models in the VO wiki;



That's a vult remodel, and imo it looks worlds better than the old one. Don't you think upgrades like that across the board would be cool?
Aug 11, 2010 tarenty link
Yes, we need new models, but we have nobody to make them.
Aug 11, 2010 shlimazel link
The devs have said they might have found someone who can do graphics work for them (link). I imagine it's too early for them to say one way or the other, probably, but we can probably start crossing our fingers
Aug 11, 2010 ryan reign link
I actually like the Moth... it could look better sure but as it is it reminds me of a cargo van in space. Which is what it is.