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Remove Weapon Ports From Warthog TD

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Apr 29, 2010 Ghost link
I mean, if it's going to be useless, it may as well be USELESS. =P

But seriously. There's been a lot of good suggestions on how to improve this ship. I've been doing some digging, but would anyone else be willing to help consolidate some of the many Warthog TD suggestions into one thread so we might come together and hash out an update to this ship?
Apr 30, 2010 Kierky link
Warthog TD

Existing Stats:
2/2/2/-/-
Armor: 10,000
Cargo: 4
Mass: 5,300 kg
Thrust (Turbo): 200N (300N)
Spin Torque: 7.3 Nm
Top Speed: 65 m/s
Turbo Speed: 220 m/s
Turbo Energy: 57/s

Proposed Stats:
6/4/5/-/- [+4/2/3/-/-]
Armor: 11,500 [+1,500]
Cargo: 2 [-2]
Mass: 5,000 kg [-300kg]
Thrust (Turbo): 250N (350N) [+50 (+50)]
Spin Torque: 7.5 Nm [+0.2 Nm]
Top Speed: 70 m/s [+5m/s]
Turbo Speed: 225 m/s [+5m/s]
Turbo Energy: 57/s [same]

PLUS a built in Addon Scanner
Apr 30, 2010 Maalik link
Here is the last discussion that comes to mind.

My goal was a ship focused solely on combat with a high spin torque differentiating it from other fighters. (Let the Greyhound fill the interceptor niche)

WTD.1
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Armor: 11000
Mass: 5300
Max Speed: 70 m/s
Thrust: 280 N
Spin Torque: 8 Nm
Turbo Thrust: 300 N
Max Turbo Speed: 220
Turbo Energy: 60/s
Integrated Scanner: Addon

WTD.2
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Armor: 11000
Mass: 5300
Max Speed: 65 m/s
Thrust: 275 N
Spin Torque: 8 Nm
Turbo Thrust: 300 N
Max Turbo Speed: 220
Turbo Energy: 60/s
Integrated Scanner: Addon

The difference between the two being the max speed and thrust. If these are too high then people would be unable to extricate themselves from an AGT/flare hug.
Apr 30, 2010 pirren link
Maalik, +1, sounds logical

Though I am not sure about adding a built in Addon Scanner to WTD, because SVG will look bad without any addons at all. (remember IBG has +1(!) weapon port)
Apr 30, 2010 Kierky link
I do like Maalik's WTD. 1

Nah, pirren, the SVG is special in that it is far better than any vulture, and the IBG is far better than any centurion.

The + weapon port for the IBG was only to balance the IBG and the SVG, as these are seen as nationalist's equals.
Apr 30, 2010 incarnate link
Updated Warthog TD:

BrakeConst: 300
Cargo: 2
Armor: 11000
Mass: 5300
ThrustConst: 275
MaxSpeed: 65
SpinConst: 8000
TurboEnergyUsage: 60
TurboMaxSpeed: 220
TurboThrustConst: 300

Nothing integrated, for now. This should now be live, in production.
Apr 30, 2010 Kierky link
Sweet, good shit Inc.
Apr 30, 2010 Dr. Lecter link
BrakeConst: 300

Elaborate.
Apr 30, 2010 Snax_28 link
Gonna go ahead and guess it's how fast a ship stops. Most likely inversely related to thrust.
Apr 30, 2010 Kierky link
That's the brake thrust.
Apr 30, 2010 Dr. Lecter link
Interesting; wonder if playing with it could help differentiate certain underused light fighters.
Apr 30, 2010 Maalik link
I like the new WTD so far. Feels adequately deadly anyway. :-)
May 01, 2010 Ghost link
Awesome, thx Inc! =D
May 01, 2010 CrazySpence link
I love the new WTD. It is a great duel ship.
May 02, 2010 Aticephyr link
I actually like this ship. And I normally hate the hog. Niut is gonna slaughter people in this thing.
May 02, 2010 Aticephyr link
heh, double-post time.

How would you guys feel about further boosting the stats to make it a decent chaser?
225m/s, 55drain?

I feel it's time the UIT gave the smurfs a run for their money. WTDs combat is well balanced, but if only it could chase!

EDIT:
just read Maalik's post: My goal was a ship focused solely on combat with a high spin torque differentiating it from other fighters. (Let the Greyhound fill the interceptor niche)

I guess I should go find another ship to intercept with then. I do think we should make another one that can chase well yet combat effectively. the Valk has been alone on that pedestal for too long.
May 02, 2010 Lord~spidey link
i think just lowering the drain to 57 makes much sense, the TD is an insanely awesome pvp ship now!

I think if any ship deserves a buff its the MkIV hog since its an armored variant can it have 13.5k hp with another 200kg slapped on it?

The MkIII is a better pvp ship than the Mark four and it has twice the cargo space, it has better spin torque and the fact it can boost at 55 makes it more awesome in many ways.
May 02, 2010 Kierky link
Spidey, the spin torque is the same according to VO wiki.
May 02, 2010 CrazySpence link
of course it's the same the wiki was updated with the changes.
May 02, 2010 Kierky link
Spence, the MkIV wasn't updated in the patch was it? If it was, that'd be cool.