Im getting VERY TIRED of coming into a friendly station only to be attacked and killed by Xang Xi escort hogs landing there during an escort mission. THIS. IS. BULLSHIT. FURTHER, they're borked and camping the station I'm homed at so when I try to leave I get killed again before I can steer.

Station camped by faction bots is FUCKED.

This is ridiculous, has gone on too long, fix it for shits sake.

Alright then, So how about calming down or something

Or not posting when drunk...

You have a point, though.

The fact that bots can violate the NFZ without being subject to SF attack, as Tumble so aptly put it, BULLSHIT.

Thing is, this didn't used to be the case. Devs, whatever you thought you were fixing by making this change...wasn't worth it. Turn it back.

Oh the IRONY of it all.....

Aye , that was fun , the louder you shouted the faster I spawned xx voys . Vendetta , as we say ...

Yup, ecka demonstrates once again he's the biggest {nope! -Whistler].

I have to side with the pirates here. I agree that it's somewhat ironic, but it's a bad situation and it affects more than just them. This applies to CtC bots outside of their spawning stations as well, and anyone else who for some reason might be hated by a faction.

NPC's should be subject to the exact same rules as PC's with regards to NFZ violations. Personally, I don't think they should attack within the NFZ at all, but if they do they should damn well be subject to the exact same penalties we face. It becomes especially ludicrous when the bots in question have mediocre standing, and the pilot under attack is POS at that station. This fix has been needed for some time, and I fully endorse its implementation.

And Ecka, that's pretty cold. Exploiting a broken game mechanic to stationcamp someone? Two wrongs do not make a right...

irony very much laughed at... but yah, seems we need a fix here. Shouldn't this be in "bugs" anyways?

I'm not sure what irony you're seeing here. If I attack you in the NFZ, I get a SF on my ass, lose faction standing, and have to high tail it out. Maybe irony doesn't mean what you think it means?

*sigh*
Definition of irony: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

I believe the above situation falls under this category.

I don't find any of this amusing.

It's amusing in a very "oh lord, this game is so broken there's nothing left to do but chuckle about it" way, but I don't think that kind of amusement sells video games.

This needs to be fixed.

The irony is Ecka bragging about griefing someone but it isn't very amusing and it is old news now anyway.

Fumblemonster, " All bow down to me , The sf is crap I can station camp so I can serially kill noobs with no standing loss so they leave vo "

A bit later ;

Fumblemonster, " Wah , The game is borked, not fair I am being station camped by npcs , Wah , its not fair , the sf is crap they don't protect me. WaaaH "

Aye, right Tumble it's not funny, it's hilarious. I would say Hoist with his own petard, but that isn't fair to google.......

It should be fixed, er, soon (tm). Next September would be fine ....

Now that is sad. A pirate who can't evade a voy escort. Perhaps you should contact VPR for assistance...

Either my grep-fu is too weak or you are hallucinating again, Ecka. I can't find any reference to anyone espousing a desire to make newbs leave Vendetta Online through station camping.

It's always been annoying that players have no recourse but evasion to bots that attack you in the NFZ. I've definitely lost a few ships to this. I believe fixing this oversight has priority over Ecka's desire to keep exploiting this problem to cause suffering to others.

While we're on the subject, how about fixing the bug that lets a newbs explosion which causes damage in the nfz to retain the memory when they try to undock from that same station and hence get their asses unexpectedly handed to them by the SF that's supposed to be protecting them.

Surely this fix should take precedence :p

Not so fast, Maal: it's not like Ecka has much else to work with.

And Fluffer, everyone would benefit from that fix. So. Annoying.

I recall when sf responded to npc aggression in the nfz. I also recall voy wars. two large voys arriave at about the same time, someone bumps someone, someone shoots at pilot x but hits npc y, or something, and all hell breaks lose. funny as hell. also very profitable to wait around to loot the aftermath. potentially a serious exploit. I expect this is what the the devs where attempting to fix.

npc bots should not shoot at pilots that have good standing in the faction space they are currently occupying. They should also have good standing in the faction space they are occupying, so that pilots do not shoot at them without faction loss. *cough* ctc *cough*

echa: pirates are notoriously poor fans of their own medicine. funny as hell, but not very pirate friendly. carry on.