All right, I have a limited experience with Border Skirmish (BS), as I have a low fps when participating in it (my graphics card sucks). But it seems to me that currently BS is biased towards capship vs capship battle. Which means killing opposite players contributes to winning less than taking down a capship. Which leads us to a point where BS turns into "who will bring more bombing ragnaroks" contest.

Add to that in-sector reloading and repairing under protection of capship turrets and NPCs. This leads to a situation where ragnaroks have a decent chance to unload their swarms and run from a danger.

So nowadays BS is all about flying in a ragnarok in circles. You can come there for some PvP action, but that will not contribute to your side's victory much. Yes, you can try and chase these rags, but the conditions are more in favor for bringing your own rag.

But, you know, flying ragnarok in circles between my capship and an enemy capship is not my definition of fun. Also this mission is supposed to be the pinnacle of VO's PvP fun, not an exercise of taking down the NPCs

Another problem of BS (and HS as well) -- it doesn't reward the group effort. Whoever scores a kill blow, gets the reward. In BP every kill counts toward the group reward (even if your side is "loosing"), so it doesn't really matter who scores the last hit.

Is there anyone who doesn't agree with me? If the rag is becoming the king of capship vs capship battle, that may be a sign of future player controlled capship vs capship battles being not that exciting... Maybe there's something we should fix in this area?

Aleksey, there are some other good threads on fixing BS and CtC on here already as many of your points are valid and discussed in much detail on those other threads.

I believe the dev response so far is "Yes, we know, but we have other things to fix first..."

I did one BS when i got back to VO.
Most boring experience i ever had. Even HS is more fun.
Aleksey worded everything right.

If I could choose between border skirmish in Deneb and Obsidians serco/itani/UIT capships battle in Sedina B-8, i would choose Sedina every time.
Those events had a special charm. Capships leaving at nation capitals, picking newbies on the way, shooting bots from turrets in a storm. Ambushes on the way by opposing nation strike teams and finally the real battle in B-8.

It was just 1 capship per side but it allowed players to make a greater impact on the course of the battle.
Border skirmish will never have that and will never be that much fun.

Those old missions are just "Something To Do" but will be replaced or reconfigured as the devs continue to develop their larger vision.

Well I'm just surprised how many people are still interested in BS. There was a fun furball in B-12 today, but then Sercos sneaked to B-13 for BS and it effectively ended. I had to proceed to doing BS, refused to use rag, scored some kills on a 1/1/0/1 Serco newbie and had much less fun.

Maybe I'm just doing it wrong?

Whistler, you did your share of spawning cappies for sedina cphip wars.
Was everyone happy when you did that?
I think there was always joy when that happened and those wars were fantastic furballs.
Lot of newbies enjoyed in them from the relative safety of cappie turrets and the trip from nation capital to sedina was always fun too.

So... until old "Something To Do" missions are replaced, can we have them back?

Many people were happy, though there was a good bit of bitching and moaning as well.

We'll check with the devs and point them to the other thread about cappies.

Thanks Whistler. :)