another aspect of the Hive Id just thought of...the Hive is...(unless I'm wrong)...an AI intelligence that has become self aware. now with out trying to start a debate on philosophy or get into semantics, but it seems to me the hive is a robotic nation, with several "factions".

sinse the Hive has been scavenging our ships for so long, its not much of a stretch to think that they have been studying us as well. I have seen Hive bots adapt to cobat tactics and such. its not such a stretch that the Hive could look on Serco as friends. or that the Hove would have commerce with UIT. I'm not sure what thier relation with Itan would be though.

perhaps the hive could have thier own nation, with missions, faction standing etc...etc...
they could have one less populated areas of grey space...or a new section with worm holes leading from/to Serco, Itani, UIT and grey space.

trade missions would be limited as the hive produces/scavenges most of thier own materials. there could be missions to escort/transport a hive diplpmat. the hive could have a mission similar to hive skirmish where the player would have to clear NPC pirates from hive space. a mission where the player has to scan NPC/player ships for the hive. escort missions, or even combat missions with rival hives.

in addition to all of this, the players might...(if the Devs are able to do it)...have a new race/faction to start out with.

sorry for the binary title, but it seemed good...it actually reads...Hive Nation

I approve this idea.

Not that anyone cares, but I think it could be an interesting initiative.

From what I remember, the Hive is not really a nation, nor would it have nations. The reason being, even though low-level bots have small amounts of intelligence, they are still "controlled" by the Queens, and through them, the Leviathans. The reason this AI has a lack of factions is for factions you need a disagreement of opinions, and in this case, the only bots that could disagree are the Levi's. If this were to happen you'd end up with several nations, not factions. There is a difference.

i was thinking along the lines of the hive in "Enders Game" or the Borg in star trek. who says the bots need to keep the current level of intelligense? maybe it was all building up to intelligent bots?

the hive does have factions...

Aputech
Fennus
Devus
Valent
Axia
TyCorp

...to name a few.

Those aren't factions. Those are the manufacturers of the drone models.

ok so the faction belongs to the manufacturer. theres still Serco space Hive, Grey UIT ITAN...those could be considered factions.

How about an ex-Serco faction that believes the hive bots are sentient? They'd be outsiders, like the Order of Akan.

To follow up on the Ender series, they'd be like Quara with her theory that the Descolada is raman.

Then there's the faction issue. Adding another faction will, with the current system just add/change the npcs flying around, maybe adds a few stations. If/when you can become part of a faction, then maybe. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but it just seems like you'd be adding something that'd just have to be changed later.

I dont think it would have to be changed later...the uit has factions that currently you cant be a part of...just gain faction standing

Right, that's what I'm saying. It is of my opinion that you should be able to be a part of factions.

i actually agree...but that may actually happen...."soon"

theoretically you could be a member of a faction...just start a guild called TPG and youre a member of the best UIT faction there is...kinda

I think sometime Soon™, you'll be able to as much a part of the Order of Akan as you currently can be of Itani, Serco, or UIT. If that's the case, then balance would necessitate a Serco counterpart. (UIT have Corvus?)

Then that Serco faction would not be attacked by the hive? Or what would be the effect?

No.

Serco do not need an 'extremist faction', the Serco Dominion is already at war with the Itani Nation and bent on taking over, led by the Triumvirate. Instead, a more refined group, more interested in coexistence than annexation, would be called for.

We're not interested in annexation. We're interested in vermin removal.

"Instead, a more refined group, more interested in coexistence than annexation, would be called for."

I agree but, wouldnt a Sreco faction interested in peace and coexistance be considerd extremesit by the Serco? much in the was that the American "hippie movement" of the 1960s and early 1070s was considerd to be extremist by the general population.

also it would be an interesting counter balance for the Order of Akan...if they are introduced.

The name of the game is Vendetta.

theoretically you could be a member of a faction...just start a guild called TPG and youre a member of the best UIT faction there is...kinda

Guild = Faction

Thoughts?

guild= a group of like minded people with simiar goals

faction= a group of like minded people with simiar goals