Does anyone use these as is? The only time I have ever equipped them is on a bus...

Perhaps their grid usage should be adjusted so that they can be used with at least one other weapon or a mining beam?

I know that they can be used with scanners now, they are just not so uber that it would hurt to use them with something else. I think further adjustment is required to make them worthwhile.

I'd rather face a widowmaker with something else than two plus or lenbs on a single ship.

lol These things still suck?

/me thumbs his nose at Inc.

Told ya so :P

For awhile I was raiding with them on my Valkyrie. Keeps the weight down, anyways, and the deciding factor on if I get my target tends to be the total amount of damage I squeeze out my PowerCell, as opposed to how quickly.