After "watching" a battle in Sedina the other night, I was thinking about something. Say a person violates a no-kill order around a station, by engaging in a pvp battle (for whatever reason). That person, if they continue to violate that order, is then made temp. KOS, oviously.
But, if the other person who was being pvp'd against calls for assistance, and others come to hork the first person, those others get shot at by the station guards as well.

Is it possible to have something set up, so that when a person is given temporary KOS, other people can "assist" the station in carrying out that order? Without having the station want to hurt them.

yea hopefully there gonna let us shoot hated and kos people in station sectors without getting the fuzz on our ass

Its called a NO FIRE ZONE, I think this can be translated as NO FIRING AT ANY TIME. It is not up to player to assist the fuzz, in RL for example, if you shoot someone who shot someone else, you are still guilty of murder, why should this be any different.

I'll say it again, its a NO FIRE ZONE...

I think there should be at least a defend your self clause in there. Cause right now if you shoot back, your KOS too, and that makes it hard to dock :)
But i agree with yoda about shooting any KOS in the NFZ.

If someone attacks you, sure, maybe there should be a self-defence clause. I mean, they will be marked temp KOS, so at least you won't take a faction hit, but I'm pretty sure (again, hating to but having to) in that RL life place, if someone opens fire on you, and you return fire, and there's an armed police presence? Its likely you will both get shot.

I think you're wrong on this, yoda. I think that if you're in direct danger of losing your life through the actions of another person, you may use the means at your disposal to defend your life, regardless of whether there are other people around who can help you.

Perhaps Lecter could help out on this, at least for the part of the US where he practices law (I have no idea whether self defense laws are the same around the globe, but I highly doubt it).

Toshiro: self-defense laws vary from state to state -- in some states, even if your life is in direct danger from someone else, you are not allowed to use whatever means you have to defend yourself -- you're supposed to call 911 and cross your fingers, or more accurately, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

Well Toshiro, it seems you did not read my post. Because I said you *should be able to get away with it if attacked* which you can *no faction loss, due to the offender being temp KOS* - but I'm pretty sure, and this is not just US - that opening fire while armed police/military persons are present is likely to get you shot.

Its not about *the law*, its more about "This station has a no fire zone, violating this rule will get you shot", What puts you above the law? Short answer? Nothing. Two wrongs do not make a right, etc etc (I could go on all night)

I'm not sure why you guys are arguing about what it's like in real life. This is a game. :P

Best examples come from the game that is real life. Unfortunately.

Well, I think I did read your post, and I was commenting on the RL example, not in-game. But apparently, self-defense laws differ more than I thought possible (nothing new here...), and thus the whole point is kind of moot because we're talking different systems (not going to get into the topic any more, because I haven't studied law here, I'm only reciting what a friend of mine, who has, told me about self-defense in Switzerland).

I agree with you in that nothing puts you above the law, though.

Yoda: if someone starts shooting in public, whether at me or at others, just because I draw a weapon and engage does not mean I'm going to get treated as a target by any cop who happens by. The idea that any weapon-bearing civillian in a public place is automagically a threat to be neutralized by the authorities is pathetic, and properly relegated to your backwater across the pond homeland.

Lecter: bullshit

toshiro: I think you missed the point. It's not about right or wrong (or legal and illegal), it's about a couple of unkown Joes battling it out in a gas station parking lot. If the cops roll up you both stand a reasonable chance of being shot.

I'm not saying that its right, just that its a very possible outcome.

LostCause: of course, the truly amusing thing is when they wind up mindlessly blowing away one of their own who is either undercover or off-duty.

Perhaps you should consider whether the "very possible outcome" is a) as likely as you seem to assume, and b) such a great reflex for weapon-bearing authorities to have without serious public concern.

Its also just as funny when they cap their own when fully uniformed. And I'm not starting a RL debate here, just stating how it is Lecter. So leave the insults for someone who cares huh?

Let me state it again (and for those of you who don't get it NO means NO) its a NO FIRE ZONE.

Well, if it is NO FIRE ZONE, then if station guards/SF open fire on a violator, they themselves become violators and new SF needs to be dispatched to take care of them. After *they* open fire on the first SF, they violate the NO FIRE ZONE too, and another SF needs to be dispatched, which... It's a vicious circle, likely ending up in overload and crash of that sector.
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You arent supposed to fire in the NFZ? Geez, and all this time I've been doing it wrong.

Since Yoda is so hung up on the name, how about we rename it so he can untwist his knickers: the station will have a 1000M no aggression zone :P

"Two wrongs do not make a right..."

But three, do!
(guess the reference)