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Pirate ribbons !

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Sep 13, 2007 Norseman link
They all have them !

Miners have them
Mission runners have them!
PPL hanging out in B8 all day have them!

why dont we pirates have our ribbons!

id say 25 kill in monitor space 1st pirate ribbon. 2nd ribbon at 100 and 3rd ribbon at 500.

oh and make sure you make the ribbons so that they contains the jolly roger huh :P
Sep 14, 2007 toshiro link
Oh, why the hell not...

Maybe the pirates and pirate-wannabes will finally stop whining for a bit.
Sep 14, 2007 Scuba Steve 9.0 link
Maybe instead of kills in monitored space, kills of ships which contain saleable cargo and the subsequent sale of such cargo.
Sep 14, 2007 SilentWave link
Bounty hunter ribbons??? What?
Sep 14, 2007 upper case link
Might as well legalize and regulate anarchy while we're at it.

The defunct bounty system was more appropriate to signify one's yarr-iness.
Sep 14, 2007 Norseman link
Ah shut up ninny, its called Vendetta the game needs it pirates, now go back to your mining.
Sep 14, 2007 Incontinence link
uc, there's no clear answer that mining is unregulated. Perhaps it's illegal. Conversely, there's no clear evidence that piracy is always forbidden in this universe,

Profits for sales of goods towards Basic Trader also don't care where the goods came from (i.e. contraband/pirated goods count).

It's a badge to recognize a skill set, just like the rest.

Now STFU unless, like scuba, you have something useful and correct to add.
Sep 14, 2007 upper case link
Charming as always Satclair.

The useful and correct thing you failed to grasp is that the bounty system would (and did) serve as a nice bragging right for pirates. And hunters. Instead of a medal (counter intuitive really), a scoreboard of some sort (wanted list/hunted list) would be better than medals.

Norsy, go mine yourself. I Never did other than for obtaining ships.

I totally agree that the game needs it's pirates but I dont think sissy features like waiting periods for docking in order to satisfy the lousy pirates out there is a fair solution.

Unless perhaps the waiting period can be based on your standing with the station in question. This would avoir noobs getting invariably owned at the dock and give anyone a chance to secure a route before planning a risky haul.

(I edited my post because I cut out a phrase in half by accident)
Sep 14, 2007 Dr. Lecter1 link
uc, you don't really think 'John Satclair' is anything other than one more layer of moniker, do you?
Sep 14, 2007 TheBlackFlag link
i like the idea of getting badges for moth kills..
not centaurs or atlases though, considering they are often used as pvp ships and anyone sitting in b8 long enough would get them.
i'd be fine with the 50, 100, 500 Behemoth Slayer badges.
it would give me as i pierat something to aim for.. other than my pk count, which gets a little old.
it would also label people as pirates that maybe don't want to be labeled as such. i.e. people screaming PIRATE when one serco booms some smurf moth or some junk.
only those who actually pirate players would be considered for these badges. this, i like.

Yarrr!
Sep 14, 2007 look... no hands link
yea pirate ribbons would be nice, the idea of a 5 second wait to dock, that's just annoying, this coming from a pirate though admittedly I haven't been out yarring it up much recently.
Sep 15, 2007 Antz link
Mmm, pirating does not need to be made any easier than it is. An XC or even a normal moth full of cargo make easy targets. Station safe zones are a good things as they give running traders the much needed safe-havens.

As for moth killing badges... why not.
Sep 16, 2007 Shapenaji link
Personally, I think that docking times are absurd.

BUT, before you argue about "not helping incompetent pirates", consider, why does nobody care that miners can be dumb as stumps and still make money, but a pirate trying to survive in grey has to be "top shelf".
Sep 16, 2007 softy2 link
Cuz Pie-rats are l337!!!!!!111one!!!
Sep 17, 2007 Norseman link
orly!
Sep 18, 2007 toshiro link
Because pirates are trying to survive off the work of others, Shape. No-one likes to see her or his work getting blown to cinders, or worse, profit the one who blew them to cinders. In a multi-faceted contrast to this, we have the miners, who are the 'honest worker' type (always from my own point of view), the traders (businessmen) and the bums (like me).
Sep 20, 2007 Antz link
Shape:

- Because piracy is hard. Historically (on Earth) few criminals became pirates, and even fewer became rich. Yet any idiot (no offence intended to any hardcore miners) could become a miner and make a living.

- Because if was is easy everyone would become pirates, and trade would die.

- Because if it was easy it would not be fun and challenging.

As it stands, pirating is easy enough... Yeah, the window of pirating someone is quite short, and could possibly do with an extension, but I can't think of a way of achieving the result without slowing down travel. (e.g. increasing jump distance to 5km, which would give extra 12 seconds in which to pirate, or making wh smaller, say 100m, which would force traders into a smaller channel)
Sep 20, 2007 Pyroman_Ace link
I dont know of a medal or ribbon would be the best way of noting a pirate accomplishment.

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying pirates shouldnt get their decorations, but wouldnt a piracy ribbon seem a little too..."regulated military" for a pirate? And unfortunately, making a ribbon noting "kills in monitored space" can and probably WOULD lead to anti-piracy and non-pirate forces from being labeled Pirates themselves after accumulating certain numbers of those kills.

Personally, I'd say make the badge more specific, such as kills against certain classes of ship (ex: Centaurs) in monitored space count for a pirate badge. Pirates probably arent flying Cents around which means anti-piracy forces can engage without earning marks against them, and players interested in causing a stir can safely do so (and be oppressed) as long as they do not target those classifications.

Say the classifications are all Centaurs and other large cargo ships. The Cargo variant would not be in this classification, since a Cargo variant of a fighter can still be a formidable enemy, and can still be used effectively as a transport and combat ship by pirates.

What say you?
Sep 20, 2007 tramshed link
Bring back the old centurion mkII pierat ship. Infiturbo at 240 let you actually catch the damn things, and hte single weapon port kept it from being an ubership. We used to use a pair of mkII pencils and a third guy in a moth to pierat and life was good. Course, the moth had butterloads of armor then, so you really needed two ships to take one down before it got away, but that was good actually. Moth hunting was fun.
Sep 20, 2007 MSKanaka link
The Centurion MkII had 230m/s at infiniturbo, tram, not 240m/s.