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Group Dueling

Aug 01, 2005 Beamrider link
A couple of us were chatting the other day trying to figure out how to start a team dueling contest. With the various factions and such it seems to be a logistical nightmare to set up and run...

However, the thought came up that group dueling would be a blast! Would there be any interest in the ability of a group of 2 or more challenging another group to a duel? This would be a interesting feature to add to the group/duel menu.....
Aug 01, 2005 Harry Seldon link
I think there already is, but it's broken right now.
Aug 01, 2005 Beamrider link
Really? I guess I never knew about it....
Aug 01, 2005 Beolach link
If there is, I also never knew about it. I'd like to see it, too. Another thing I'd like is, mêlée duels, so multiple people all in the same nation & with good standing could fight against each other. The winner of the mêlée would be the last one surviving, who would get a decent increase to their duel rating. The rest of the mêlée would either gain or lose duel rating based on when they died: if they were in the first 50% of the mêlée to die, they would lose duel rating (and the later it was that they died, the less duel rating they would lose), while if they were in the last 50% of the mêlée to die, they would gain duel rating (and the later they died, the more they would gain).
Aug 01, 2005 KixKizzle link
Yes.
Aug 01, 2005 jexkerome link
Isn't the BP dueling between groups, groups than can be Serco-UIT and Itani-UIT?

The duieling scores aren't modified, but apart from that it's the same thing, no?
Aug 01, 2005 Beolach link
Border Patrol is an invasion scenario, not a duel scenario. A duel in consensual, an invasion is not. They have different rules, what is acceptable in one may not be acceptable in the other.

And what if a group of Serco want to duel another group of Serco?
Aug 02, 2005 Lord Q link
i don't think we need more dueling infostructure, i mean this game feals more FPS-ish than RPG-ish as it is, and i think more dueling only worsens that. As it is there is an open PVP system where anyone can attack anyone, limited only by friendly fire amoung members in good standing of the same nation. But even that can be circumvented with a duel.

I just don't see a need for a group dueling engin, but that's just me.
Dec 16, 2007 SuperMegaMynt link
Okay, there are two benefits I foresee... the first being the aesthetic duel point system, which can be fun for a while. The second is the temporary removal of the Friendly Fire restriction. Albeit that's going to be removed soon(tm), it might be nice to have soon. However, it also might be a nice feature to have in place once VO has larger numbers. That it might not get used a whole lot is really only a current issue.
Dec 16, 2007 mr bean link
this would be good until ff goes away. but until then this sounds like a good idea.
lord Q:you dont seem to understand that the focus of vo IS the pvp. if it wasnt then I wouldnt be playing right now.
Dec 16, 2007 Lord~spidey link
[Stamp of Approval]™
Dec 17, 2007 EddyHolland link
Perhaps you don't understand that duelling is, by defintion, for a pair of adversaries, 1 v 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel
Perhaps with a different name your suggestion becomes clearer - tag team, doubles, melee, whatever.
Dec 17, 2007 Dr. Lecter link
Duel: latin, duo (two) + bellum (war)

In addition to the Wiki's links, please also see Barbara Holland, Gentlemen's Blood.
Dec 17, 2007 smittens link
Dueling is an acceptable term for it in this case because in the context of Vendetta with no FF at the moment, more than "1v1" a 'duel' is a "Ranked fight, usually between two people of the same faction"

That said, since the faction changes do seem to still be a month or so away this would be VERY useful!
Dec 17, 2007 SuperMegaMynt link
Perhaps you don't understand that we're no longer in the 20th century, and that outdated definition no longer applies. As culture evolves, so does language, and since the majority of duels in this day are played on video games, it makes absolute sense that a "group duel" would involved two *groups* dueling, as per the sense of the word as it refers to the /duel command. (You might also note that true dueling involves a crap ton of other requirements that games obviously don't bother with, and so with a little bit of intellect you can narrow down which definition our dear Beamrider probably meant.)

Thanks though, no, I've totally never read that wikipedia page before several times. Wow! It's a good thing you cleared that up, so that people weren't stuck on how you could possibly have fights between two groups that didn't destroy eachother's faction and had some effect on the duel point system. I don't know what we'd do on this board without such a mental giant as yourself.