The updates take too long, period. I'm getting about 8 kbs right now. That's absolutly not acceptable. ESPECIALLY if I am going to pay for the game, which I haven't decided on yet. AND, I've seen 2 updates in the course of 2 days. So, basically what I'm saying is, the updater should ask you if you want to update via http, or via bittorrent. And then you could grab the torrent, and dl it to the specified folder, and then restart the updater and bamb ur good.

My current upload is about 2 megs a second, and I would be 100% happy with donating all that bandwidth to the torrent.

P.S: when you download the main client it says "click the torrent link if you can" but I haven't seen the torrent link, so where is the torrent?

It was slow for me too this time, but that's unusual. Last week it took only a couple of seconds to download a few updates (I didn't launch the game for a few months on this compy).

No idea what's going on.:P

My guess: this update contains new ship models, for the player controlled mini-capship, and possibly the Leviathan. The update does say it contains "additional content to be used in the future."

But, a bittorrent tracker might be nice for the larger patches, as long as it wouldn't be to difficult to integrate w/ the updater.

Question though, when was it you saw "2 updates in the course of 2 days"? That has happened, but not for more than a month, and when it did happen, they were small patches quickly downloaded.

Well for me, it was a 7 meg update. It probably only took a minute or a bit more to download (and this is immediately after the update was implemented, so there were a storm of people downloading it simultaneously). Bittorrent I can see useful for say, downloading the whole game, but not a updates. Besides, they also use the updater as a way to make sure that you're not cheating.

I think, among other things, the cap ships were shrunk, beam cannons were added, a new light frigate model was added, and there were some mission changes. Last night, there were 6 cap ships duking it out in Sedina B8, and there wasn't nearly as much lag as there were with 3 before. Not to say that it wasn't laggy, but it was really bad before.

Well, why not make the updater USE BT by defualt?? That would take so much load off the vendetta servers. It would probably save a bunch of bandwith too. The bt source could probably be plopped right in. Not sure what the gpl says about that... but yeah. And after the client updated, it could host the file untill they signed off. Sounds like a good idea to me. (my 2 updates in 2 days were the initial update from the main file download, and then the one that was recent)

I really think that the current auto-updater works just fine for all intents and purposes. Usually, we just have and update every two weeks, you just happened to get an old version, and then had to update again when we got our update.

but this still doesn't address the slowness issue. If vendetta is willing to fork out the bandwidth, fine by me, but it better be fast.

Also, there STILL ISN'T A BT LINK for the main dl. Don't make me start a torrent myself guys....

There used to be a bittorrent for the main download, but the machine running the tracker died & the devs haven't gotten around to setting up another tracker yet.

I don't know why you are only getting 8 kilobytes/sec from the update server, I've always had my 768kb dsl maxed out at ~80KB/s when updating.

Something else to think about integrated BT: BT would kill any modem user's connection. If you thought people complained alot about bad lag, just you wait. Even for broadband connections it would increase latency. So there would have to be a disable button, and anyone who cared about their ping ingame would disable BT. So most players would have it disabled, negating any advantage of it. Then you have to think about the amount of time it takes for BT to reach a decent speed, compared to a normal http connection. Plus, the updates are generally <10MB, usually around 2MB (not counting the "redownload everything updater bug").

In summary: Bittorrent is good for the main download, but attempting to integrate it into the updater is just silly. I'd lock this if I could.