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Feb 12, 2004 Urza link
Hi guys,

I'm sitting here at school researching information for a research paper. The topic? "Does violence in videogames result in violence in the real world"

Anyone who has any links to interesting stories (the kids who decided to shoot trudcks with .22s and such) please post em
thx
Feb 12, 2004 Suicidal Lemming link
How about Napolean?
Feb 12, 2004 Pyro link
Slashdot and the BBC are your friends. :P
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/07/1431222&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=186&tid=96&tid=99

What videogames did Hitler play? For that matter, what videogames did Jack the Ripper play? Or Vlad the Impaler? Or... or... You see my point.

Gasp! There was violence before videogames?!? Unheard of!
Feb 12, 2004 Pyro link
Yeah, but Napolean wasn't a deranged murderer...
Feb 13, 2004 Renegade ++RIP++ link
how about Atilla the hun?

Caesar the roman, alexander the great, hannibal the great, and some guy with a strange moustache and a limping leg.

all examples of children playing videogames and turning in demolitioncrazy adults :sarcastic: :D
Feb 13, 2004 toshiro link
you can't just discard video-games as a ... guide to violence.
however, it is more important
1) whether the people who play video-games are aware of the fact that what she or he sees happening on the screen is not real?
2a) if the gamer is a child, are the parents aware of the kid playing the game, and are they discussing the game with the child?
2b) how was the child raised, considering violence, penalties and such

you could say that explicit video-games (mostly fps shooters) do train to shoot to kill ("head-shot!").
a brief excursion in military history:
in ww2, 30-40% of the soldiers (american) who were able to take a clear shot at an enemy did not aim for the enemy in shooting.
they found that out and trained their soldiers to shoot to kill. result:
in vietnam, the quota was down to 10%, iirc.
today, as you probably know, the military trains some soldiers with simulations that take away the reluctance to fire at an enemy, much alike to our fps video-games.

however, to say that video-games indiscriminately further violence in people is, in my opinion, wrong.
Feb 13, 2004 genka link
Vlad played vendetta.
Feb 13, 2004 paedric link
Dungeon and Dragons, Television, Movies, Rock & Roll, Swing, Jazz, the Blues, Beer have all been alternatly blamed for all forms of delinquency prior to the onset of video games (Yes your Honor, Starskey and Hutch made me go on a mass killing spree). Beethoven was considered a radical for his time. What is, has been, and always will be part of us. The powers that be have to focus the general anger on *some* target. Give the impression that they are actually doing *something*.
Feb 14, 2004 toshiro link
you can't simplify it that drastically, paedric.
it is a proven fact that you can intensify the violence with video games.
the point is how you handle it.
Feb 14, 2004 Pyro link
Well, sure, video games *can* make you more violent. However, the same thing goes for almost anything. In fact, shouldn't we all lop our balls off, since testosterone can make you extremely violent? ;)
Feb 15, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
My opinion:

Video-games don't incite violence, hatred, or in general nastyness. Videogames are an outlet for pent up energy or feelings. Rather than taking a gun to school and slaughtering classmates and teachers, it's much easier to go home and play a videogame for two hours ABOUT slaughtering people while no real damage is done to the indivdual or the people the individual doesn't like.

The worst thing a videogame can do is to desenseitize people to violence. I know that I've played violent videogames (in fact Im playing one right now, tis updating "Delta Force: Black Hawk Down!") and I know that I don't feel at all bad about the current war in Iraq. I feel sorry for those who have lost loved ones but I don't feel sad about the bloodsehd or anything.

And as toshiro put it, it's important for the user to distiguish between the real world and the digital world and to understand that while someone dies in a game, and then reappears, that it doesn't work that way in reallife, a dead person doesn't come back.


Also, as tosh put it, the US Military (USAF, USN, Marines, and Army) all put their people through simulations to make them colder, and harder. The US Military is in fact working on a version of these simulations to release to the public as a major videogame. The idea is that the game will be extremely graphic and lifelike to mimic war conditions on teh ground. It will hopefully scare somepeople straight and then for those it doesn't phase, it's an early brainwash to join the US Military.


And the fact is that while violence in videogames, TV, and movies has increased in the last 20 years, that the average crime rate in certain areas has decreased while in others it's stayed relatively the same.
Also, violence is an essential part of the human psycy. Violence has existed since the dawn of human time when we fought over food or territory and lasted throught he Crusades and the World Wars, and Korea, and Vietnam...the point is that violence will ALWAYS occur. The idea of world peace is a nice idea but is only that, an idea and is unattainable unless we all became mindless idiots who held no beleifs or values. Such as the sanctity of life, or Thou Shalt Not Steal.

SUMMARY: Violence is unavoidable and won't be removed. Videogames dont incite violence, they merely desensitize the gamer.