So this 3rd person shooter (i think) or rather more like World of Theft Auto died. Pay to play MMO. While nearly nowhere as crappy starting conditions, VO is somewhat in the same boat as being a fairly unknown P2P MMO.

Makes me wonder how long VO will last. I haven't read much lately, but is Guild Software planning to like, re-release this once it gets out of beta? Yeah, I would still call this a beta. Things are still being implemented that are definitely not additional end game content.

APB was being advertised all over the place :P

I think it was just a crappy game. VO's different, it's a good game that has no advertisement. If (or when) it goes under, it'll be for entirely different reasons.

I didn't see it advertised much. Only people who looked into new games might find it.
Your standard Halo, Cawwa Dooty, massive flagship games etc. player wouldn't have heard of it.

Over-advertising games like Halo and Call of Duty are in an entirely different tier. Left 4 Dead, Portal, SW:TOR, and most other star games don't even advertise that much. VO, on the other hand, is completely and utterly unheard of.

On this out-of-the-way forum, we've been referring to APB only by acronym without having to bring up any question of what it stands for - that means they've had more advertising in a few months than VO has ever had in its 7 or 8 years of life.

First time I heard of APB was when some link aggregation website had on it a link to a blog post about an online game "journal" about how terrible it was.

I thought the trailer looked pretty sweet.

APB was a game way over budget, and advertised quite a bit.
/. had a story on this today.
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/09/16/1813218

Edit: I never heard of the game prior btw.

Let's look at it another way: VO has been chugging along for at least 8 years. It's fairly cheap to host a game like this, and indeed they didn't even charge to play for quite some time. Guild could easily slow development and cut overhead if they needed to. I doubt that VO will die unless the devs choose to go do something else instead.

As for "things still being implemented that are definitely not additional end game content": no kidding. The majority of the players who were playing prior to release begged guild to charge so that development would continue. It has, and in a clear direction toward many of the essential "soon" items.

OMG OMG OMG Hull breach in the forward advertising compartment!!! Capship bulkheads breached!!! We're sinking!!! We're sinking!!!!oneone!!11eleven



Vat ah yoo sinking about?

there was a game called all points bulletin?

APB was 6 years in development. It had hundreds of people working on it. It had a huge amount of investment which, according to most, is $100M.
APB is called APB for the exact reasons CrazySpence pointed out.

Suggestions are being taken, good.
But one thing VO hasn't encountered is a mass of script kiddies trying to hack. Has anyone really even tried? I know most of us loved playing as it is and don't really have that mentality to go try exploiting.

Er...many of us look for exploits. People have tried to hack, but I think the average script kiddie is not going to have much luck here.