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Yes, toshiro, I will have plenty of opportunity to perpetuate the friendly rivalry between geologists and engineers when I go work in the oil industry. Meanwhile, you've probably already heard this joke, but it's too true:
A mathematician, an engineer and a geologist are all asked to add two and two. The mathematician answers "4." The engineer answers "4.0000." The geologist answers "Between 3 and 5."
The income is a secondary concern for me, I would not choose a career I didn't think I would enjoy. I love music, but the competitiveness of that field doesn't really appeal to me, I play music to enjoy it. So I'll keep it as a hobby. For awhile I thought about journalism, but then figured no, I'll just keep a blog nobody reads instead. It doesn't really appeal as a job, though writing skills are by far the most sought-after qualification in just about any profession, including geology. Even the best geologist is worthless if he can't communicate well. Geology to me provides the best balance between interesting and fun, and comfortable style of living. At least, one of these days I'll make some money with it.
And toshiro, that picture is really creepy.
A mathematician, an engineer and a geologist are all asked to add two and two. The mathematician answers "4." The engineer answers "4.0000." The geologist answers "Between 3 and 5."
The income is a secondary concern for me, I would not choose a career I didn't think I would enjoy. I love music, but the competitiveness of that field doesn't really appeal to me, I play music to enjoy it. So I'll keep it as a hobby. For awhile I thought about journalism, but then figured no, I'll just keep a blog nobody reads instead. It doesn't really appeal as a job, though writing skills are by far the most sought-after qualification in just about any profession, including geology. Even the best geologist is worthless if he can't communicate well. Geology to me provides the best balance between interesting and fun, and comfortable style of living. At least, one of these days I'll make some money with it.
And toshiro, that picture is really creepy.
Okay, but why nuke Iran? I've noticed it's becoming a trend to be upset at them, but I forgot what they did to provoke anyone.
Because they might want to start developing nukes, and since they are non US friendly and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad once stated that Israel should be "wiped off the map" (though the interpretation of this quote can be disputed), it makes people worried about how they would use said nukes.
But why not just kill their president? I dont see why little Ahmed going to school happily minding his own business should also be nuked...
But why not just kill their president? I dont see why little Ahmed going to school happily minding his own business should also be nuked...
Some president of the USA signed an executive order (After the failed assassination attempt of Castro) to make such acts not possible.
what a dumbass HE was..
what a dumbass HE was..
I was joking about the nuke, I hope it doesn't come to that. Yes, killing Mahmoud should be enough, as long as we can make sure the situation afterward improves rather than allows a new dictator to fill the vacuum.
What, you find jokerified Suiseiseki (the girl in the picture, from the anime Rozen Maiden) creepy? Aww ;) It cracks me up, at least... and it's moe. >_>
Also, there's a perfectly rational explanation for the added precision zeros... although there're two too much. You also forgot the exponent. Better would have been 4.00e0. I'm not helping, am I? ;)
Also, there's a perfectly rational explanation for the added precision zeros... although there're two too much. You also forgot the exponent. Better would have been 4.00e0. I'm not helping, am I? ;)
Average signal attenuation for standard RG-6 coaxial cable:
at ch116 (approx 700mhz) loss is 7db/100ft
at ch2 (approx 80mhz) loss is 3db/100ft
Values for standard RG-59 cable
ch2: 4db/100ft
ch116: 10db/100ft
Values for standard RG-11 cable\
ch2: 2db/100ft
ch16: 5db/100ft
As you can see, distance matters greatly..
break19 - fixed frequencies
at ch116 (approx 700mhz) loss is 7db/100ft
at ch2 (approx 80mhz) loss is 3db/100ft
Values for standard RG-59 cable
ch2: 4db/100ft
ch116: 10db/100ft
Values for standard RG-11 cable\
ch2: 2db/100ft
ch16: 5db/100ft
As you can see, distance matters greatly..
break19 - fixed frequencies
I don't see what you're getting at, Eize. If it's a joke, I don't know what you're joking about. And if you're being serious, I don't know what you're referring to. Of course, signal attenuation increases as cable length and frequency increase, but what does that have to do with anything?
Care to elucidate?
Care to elucidate?
Yeah, I understand the precision zeros and appreciate them. They just don't make much sense when you say the Cambrian began 545 million years ago to say 545.00 million years ago, especially when the margin of error is in several hundred thousand years and it's an arbitrary boundary anyway.
Geologists do use precise numbers like that in fields such as geochemistry, though.
Geologists do use precise numbers like that in fields such as geochemistry, though.
I was just kidding, PC ;) We say 'well, about 4, give or take 50%. In the end, we have to slap a safety factor of 2 (or 0.5, respectively) on it anyway, so the results don't matter that much if the macroscopic behaviour of the system is within, er... certain boundaries'.
Everyone was making points about their industry, and trying to "sound smart" so I figured I'd throw my lot in. :p
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Wait, so there's a question over whether he really meant "wipe Israel of the map"? You mean you honestly think that Iranians have the same colloquialisms as we do, just translated into different words? Seriously?
You can tell that to the Israelis or the Western world in general, I dont really care whether he meant it or not, I'm not the one panicking over that statement.
Supposedly,this is part of the translated transcript of his speech:
Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world.
Other people said that this should be the right translation:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).
According to these people "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian". Instead, "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse".
Btw, mynt, how can you be so sure that Iranians dont have the same/similar colloquialisms as we do? Whatever the case might be, I'm pretty sure they have a word or phrase similar in meaning to "wiping something off the map" which is why it might have been translated that way.
In a slightly unrelated note, "Borrarlo del mapa" (that's Spanish) means "Wipe off the map". So you see, some of the colloquialisms you use are not unique to the English language.
Supposedly,this is part of the translated transcript of his speech:
Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world.
Other people said that this should be the right translation:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).
According to these people "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian". Instead, "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse".
Btw, mynt, how can you be so sure that Iranians dont have the same/similar colloquialisms as we do? Whatever the case might be, I'm pretty sure they have a word or phrase similar in meaning to "wiping something off the map" which is why it might have been translated that way.
In a slightly unrelated note, "Borrarlo del mapa" (that's Spanish) means "Wipe off the map". So you see, some of the colloquialisms you use are not unique to the English language.
Because a colloquialism by definition is something which is derived from culture. The cultural lines of Iran and North America don't cross for over a millenia, and that great a distance of time is enough that you probably wouldn't recognize even your own English. Spanish on the other hand is quite currently contaminating our language, and has particularly been doing so in the last few centuries, since we conquered their capital. It's not a coincidence that the Mexic- I mean, sorry, the *Spanish word for map is "mapa".
If you take the translation literally, that Israel should not be a legitimate country, (cuz its wiped off the politikul map) it's really quite innocuous. Of course, that would require a shallow understanding of other cultures, and a little bit of logic, so I don't really expect you to see that, but sometimes it just feels good to rant. =|
If you take the translation literally, that Israel should not be a legitimate country, (cuz its wiped off the politikul map) it's really quite innocuous. Of course, that would require a shallow understanding of other cultures, and a little bit of logic, so I don't really expect you to see that, but sometimes it just feels good to rant. =|
'Contaminating'... how would you say that Spanish contaminatesthe English language in America, i.e. makes it unfit for use (because that is the general meaning of 'to contaminate'). Or did you have a different, non-standard meaning in mind?
Plus, what's with the ad hominem?
And also,
Plus, what's with the ad hominem?
And also,
Speaking of shallow, how about SMM's understanding of how two Romance languages relate to each other?
This is probably going to mess with the thread, but your post merits it. Bonus points if you can find the picture within the pictures.
"Spanish on the other hand is quite currently contaminating our language, and has particularly been doing so in the last few centuries, since we conquered their capital. It's not a coincidence that the Mexic- I mean, sorry, the *Spanish word for map is "mapa".
Your depiction of the Spanish language as "contaminating English in the last few centuries" and the fact that you'd think that the Spanish word for map is mapa just because you conquered their capital shows dangerous levels of ignorance bordering stupidity.
Seriously, do you need to read the warning signs on coffee cups just to know "contents may be hot"?
What fucking capital are you talking about? Spanish doesn't have a capital, maybe because its a language, funnily enough...
Oh! You mean Mexic- Wops, I'm sorry, you couldn't have meant that since you oh so wittily said you actually meant to say Spanish.
Now, the etymology of the word "map", taken from here:
Shortening of mapemounde "map of the word"(c.1380) from mappa mundi "map of the world".
As you can see, it comes from Latin. Spanish, as a Romance language, ended up with something similar: "Mapa Mundial" or "Mapa del Mundo". I hope you're smart enough to make the connection.
So, we didn't borrow the word "map" from English. Or maybe you meant it was the other way around?
Hard to say, seeing as how you wrote it, It's not a coincidence that the Mexic- I mean, sorry, the *Spanish word for map is "mapa"., you would have said "It's not a coincidence that the United Stat- I mean, sorry, the *English word for mapa is map."
Either way, the transition of the word from Spanish to English probably happened before US-Mexican encounters (That is, assuming that it was borrowed from Spanish instead of Latin or some other Romance language).
Finally, "Of course, that would require a shallow understanding of other cultures, and a little bit of logic, so I don't really expect you to see that."
I find it ironic that you'd say this after displaying xenophobic tendencies and ignorance.
On a slightly related note:
PS: Piss off ye wank.
"Spanish on the other hand is quite currently contaminating our language, and has particularly been doing so in the last few centuries, since we conquered their capital. It's not a coincidence that the Mexic- I mean, sorry, the *Spanish word for map is "mapa".
Your depiction of the Spanish language as "contaminating English in the last few centuries" and the fact that you'd think that the Spanish word for map is mapa just because you conquered their capital shows dangerous levels of ignorance bordering stupidity.
Seriously, do you need to read the warning signs on coffee cups just to know "contents may be hot"?
What fucking capital are you talking about? Spanish doesn't have a capital, maybe because its a language, funnily enough...
Oh! You mean Mexic- Wops, I'm sorry, you couldn't have meant that since you oh so wittily said you actually meant to say Spanish.
Now, the etymology of the word "map", taken from here:
Shortening of mapemounde "map of the word"(c.1380) from mappa mundi "map of the world".
As you can see, it comes from Latin. Spanish, as a Romance language, ended up with something similar: "Mapa Mundial" or "Mapa del Mundo". I hope you're smart enough to make the connection.
So, we didn't borrow the word "map" from English. Or maybe you meant it was the other way around?
Hard to say, seeing as how you wrote it, It's not a coincidence that the Mexic- I mean, sorry, the *Spanish word for map is "mapa"., you would have said "It's not a coincidence that the United Stat- I mean, sorry, the *English word for mapa is map."
Either way, the transition of the word from Spanish to English probably happened before US-Mexican encounters (That is, assuming that it was borrowed from Spanish instead of Latin or some other Romance language).
Finally, "Of course, that would require a shallow understanding of other cultures, and a little bit of logic, so I don't really expect you to see that."
I find it ironic that you'd say this after displaying xenophobic tendencies and ignorance.
On a slightly related note:
PS: Piss off ye wank.
Just to point out that English is a germanic language, so yes, at one point Romance languages did represent "contamination." But now that so many languages have had permanent influences and terminology has been assimilated, parts of these languages are an integral part of English and no longer represent "contamination" (I don't like that term). Except french. French is annoying.
I'd say "borrowed" or "influenced" ;)
I know English received a lot of influence from Latin and Romance languages, like I explained with the example of the word "map".
Whatever the case might be, which influenced which and how it happened, I'm sure as hell it wasn't because "English conquered the capital of Spanish dur hur hur".
I know English received a lot of influence from Latin and Romance languages, like I explained with the example of the word "map".
Whatever the case might be, which influenced which and how it happened, I'm sure as hell it wasn't because "English conquered the capital of Spanish dur hur hur".
I think that, at the time of Charlemagne, the Holy Roman Empire made its split from the "romance" languages pretty much for good, when there was a greater influence from Nordic and Germanic tribes. Southern and western Europe kept the romance languages, northern Europe and Scandanavia kept their styles, and the Slavic languages kept theirs.
There wasn't any "contamination", just a parting.
Now, with a large influx of Spanish-speakers coming to America, the American English is changing to adopt some of their customs/idioms/words. It happens all the time. To imply that one language is inherently better than another (and can be "contaminated") is folly.
There wasn't any "contamination", just a parting.
Now, with a large influx of Spanish-speakers coming to America, the American English is changing to adopt some of their customs/idioms/words. It happens all the time. To imply that one language is inherently better than another (and can be "contaminated") is folly.