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Now that actual faction specific groups are springing up, they have started waring between each other and basically ruining the role playing aspect in my eyes.
The Itani Confederation scans people's cargo, the Serco Defence Force will not tolerate these actions. Well each one has their right to do these things, except the question is where?
As it stands now there are only two nation owned sectors that are guarded by defense ships armed to the teeth. Well, how is a guild supposed to enforce their ruling there? It would be incredibly boring, some one comes in and dies, whole lot of enforcing to do there.
The sectors bordering a nation owned sector should be considered territory of that nation. Mind you it won't give you a reason to kill a gold in sector 13, unless other circumstances apply. If a Serco trader enters sector seven then the Itani Confederation can scan but the Serco Defence Force can not deny this power of them. If you are in sector nine the Itani Confederation can not scan Serco traders and the Serco Defence Force can go after them if they do so, but they are allowed to do so to traders of the NT.
If XYZ known NT pirate enters sector 7 the Itani have a right to engage without provocation, same if it were in sector 9. If an Itani is in sector 13 and XYZ NT pirate enters, the Itani pilot should not engage without provocation.
If an Itani Confederation member is in sector 5 s/he should not be killed unless there is a good reason (because s/he is a member is not a good reason, contrary to popular belief). If an Itani Confederation member scans someone's cargo they should be killed or escorted out of s5 (and s13).
The Itani Confederation scans people's cargo, the Serco Defence Force will not tolerate these actions. Well each one has their right to do these things, except the question is where?
As it stands now there are only two nation owned sectors that are guarded by defense ships armed to the teeth. Well, how is a guild supposed to enforce their ruling there? It would be incredibly boring, some one comes in and dies, whole lot of enforcing to do there.
The sectors bordering a nation owned sector should be considered territory of that nation. Mind you it won't give you a reason to kill a gold in sector 13, unless other circumstances apply. If a Serco trader enters sector seven then the Itani Confederation can scan but the Serco Defence Force can not deny this power of them. If you are in sector nine the Itani Confederation can not scan Serco traders and the Serco Defence Force can go after them if they do so, but they are allowed to do so to traders of the NT.
If XYZ known NT pirate enters sector 7 the Itani have a right to engage without provocation, same if it were in sector 9. If an Itani is in sector 13 and XYZ NT pirate enters, the Itani pilot should not engage without provocation.
If an Itani Confederation member is in sector 5 s/he should not be killed unless there is a good reason (because s/he is a member is not a good reason, contrary to popular belief). If an Itani Confederation member scans someone's cargo they should be killed or escorted out of s5 (and s13).
The thing is that the factions each have 2 or 3 specific groups... Example, Itani:
The Itani Nation Military is the armed forces branch of the Itani Nation Council, which assumed de facto governmental status over the Itani several months ago. However, the Itani Confederation is a new guild which claims similar power over the Itani. So which 'group' is the Itani group? Ditto for SDF and that wing thingy that Icarus is on, ditto for NTS and SM, I think...
The Itani Nation Military is the armed forces branch of the Itani Nation Council, which assumed de facto governmental status over the Itani several months ago. However, the Itani Confederation is a new guild which claims similar power over the Itani. So which 'group' is the Itani group? Ditto for SDF and that wing thingy that Icarus is on, ditto for NTS and SM, I think...
they could have overlapping territory. especially since their goals overlap as well, so they could complement each other after having found a compromise. the key to that would be talking to each other.
I'll agree to be bound by this. The Confederation will limit cargo scans to sectors 7, 8, 14, and 40 - 46.
ooc-When real guilds come in we will need more sectors. Otherwise it will be full war.
The home sectors are nations specific. But after you grow up a bit you join a clan/faction/guild. Now this guild could have members from all nations or from one. But they will still want there own territory. With the small amount of sectors we have now it will be total war. Right now nations act as factions and true nations, so its a bit harder to claim any territory other then the home sectors.-ooc
The home sectors are nations specific. But after you grow up a bit you join a clan/faction/guild. Now this guild could have members from all nations or from one. But they will still want there own territory. With the small amount of sectors we have now it will be total war. Right now nations act as factions and true nations, so its a bit harder to claim any territory other then the home sectors.-ooc
err. SL: I dont get this:
"If you are in sector nine the Itani Confederation can not scan Serco traders and the Serco Defence Force can go after them if they do so, but they are allowed to do so to traders of the NT."
why are they allowed to do so to NT traders and not Serco???
"If you are in sector nine the Itani Confederation can not scan Serco traders and the Serco Defence Force can go after them if they do so, but they are allowed to do so to traders of the NT."
why are they allowed to do so to NT traders and not Serco???
The Freedom Loving people of the Neutral Territories will NEVER submit to this Itani-Serco hegemony!
Because there is no NT guild that opposes the scans upon their traders while there is a Serco guild that opposes the scans upon their traders.
Firstly, the SDF's official jurisdiction is any sectors except 4,1,6, and 3 although we can fly in there if we want. Official SDF Defensive Movements occur in s13,5,12,2 all other sectors are considered by us to be SDF Trader Support or SDF Galactic Trade Enforcement.
And yes, we FIERCLY oppose scans on Serco Traders who can skip over inspections and if fired upon and/or destroyed by a Confederation craft, they may lodge a complaint with ANY SDF and the SDF will investigate and take action based on results gathered from the investigation.
If a Serco Trader is scanned inside an enemy defesive line, and is fired upon for something there, resulting from the scan, the SDF will intervene with appropriate military and diplomatic assaults. The SDF cannot permit the obstruction of peaceful trade and the SDF itself only detains traders that are using Busses or Centaurs to reach a major hub where they intend to deploy a militant craft. We allow peaceful trade past us. I would allow Itani Mafia, StarFreeze, and Starfisher (to name a few), all known to be excellent combat pilots, to fly trade through SDF patrols because I respect them as men. I wont allow a pirate or griefer that opportunity because they arent respectable.
However, if the trader is requested inside an enemy defensive line to be scanned and is permitted to pass unharmed through the enemy defenses then the SDF will not intervene because it is the enemy's right to scan their borders, the SDF does the same but without actually SCANNING the craft, we do a flyby of the craft to determine the class and probable military deployment capability (eg, is this a First Strike, a Heavy Assault or a non-militant Centuar) and the pilots known criminal record with the SDF and probable action in the system. We also request pilots in 5 and 13 to state their purpose in system and their estimated length of stay. Any craft that doesnt respond after three hails or makes a run to the s12 gate is considered hostile and is intercepted and dispatched after attempted diverision.
And yes, we FIERCLY oppose scans on Serco Traders who can skip over inspections and if fired upon and/or destroyed by a Confederation craft, they may lodge a complaint with ANY SDF and the SDF will investigate and take action based on results gathered from the investigation.
If a Serco Trader is scanned inside an enemy defesive line, and is fired upon for something there, resulting from the scan, the SDF will intervene with appropriate military and diplomatic assaults. The SDF cannot permit the obstruction of peaceful trade and the SDF itself only detains traders that are using Busses or Centaurs to reach a major hub where they intend to deploy a militant craft. We allow peaceful trade past us. I would allow Itani Mafia, StarFreeze, and Starfisher (to name a few), all known to be excellent combat pilots, to fly trade through SDF patrols because I respect them as men. I wont allow a pirate or griefer that opportunity because they arent respectable.
However, if the trader is requested inside an enemy defensive line to be scanned and is permitted to pass unharmed through the enemy defenses then the SDF will not intervene because it is the enemy's right to scan their borders, the SDF does the same but without actually SCANNING the craft, we do a flyby of the craft to determine the class and probable military deployment capability (eg, is this a First Strike, a Heavy Assault or a non-militant Centuar) and the pilots known criminal record with the SDF and probable action in the system. We also request pilots in 5 and 13 to state their purpose in system and their estimated length of stay. Any craft that doesnt respond after three hails or makes a run to the s12 gate is considered hostile and is intercepted and dispatched after attempted diverision.
"Because there is no NT guild that opposes the scans upon their traders while there is a Serco guild that opposes the scans upon their traders."
-Well there is now. The NT Militia opposes these scans. Our membership: Every loyal fighter among the Neutral Territories.
-Well there is now. The NT Militia opposes these scans. Our membership: Every loyal fighter among the Neutral Territories.
There's the SM.... oh wait, nevermind... :P
"There's the SM.... oh wait, nevermind... :P"
-Where's the funny? I think I missed it.
We don't need a guild to defend our borders. The citizen soldiers of the Neutral Territories have always proved loyal and true to our cause. We are a true democracy in a way that you Itani can only dream of being.
-Where's the funny? I think I missed it.
We don't need a guild to defend our borders. The citizen soldiers of the Neutral Territories have always proved loyal and true to our cause. We are a true democracy in a way that you Itani can only dream of being.
NT- "Democratic"
Itani- "Parliamentary Government"
Serco- "Hell-borne Military Council Government"
I think we see who has the superior leadership...SERCO FOREVER!
Itani- "Parliamentary Government"
Serco- "Hell-borne Military Council Government"
I think we see who has the superior leadership...SERCO FOREVER!
Pyroman, your post (the long one) explained EXACTLY what I was trying to avoid!
*bangs head against wall*
---Firstly, the SDF's official jurisdiction is any sectors except 4,1,6, and 3 although we can fly in there if we want.---
That's like saying we won't let you into our bank but we will rob yours if we want.
*bangs head against wall*
---Firstly, the SDF's official jurisdiction is any sectors except 4,1,6, and 3 although we can fly in there if we want.---
That's like saying we won't let you into our bank but we will rob yours if we want.
Magus really hates the Itanis. Every forum topic ive seen with the word "Itani" he says something about the NT being more powerful than the Itani will ever be, WELL look at the current situation, i havent seen many neutrals trying to cap lately or fighting wars and such. Well Back on topic, I agree with SL's statement because its exactly what you are saying with the Jurisdiction and all.
More democratic doesn't mean more powerful. It just means more democratic. I didn't bother burning you Sercos on it because we all know you are a nation of oppressive brutes. Nobody debates this, but the Itani try to hide their barabrism.
how do we try to hide our "barabrism"= whatever that means unless its Barbarism (just wondering)
"The Serco, once peaceable scientists who pursued their interests for the benefit of all mankind, now a formidable, warlike race, feared throughout the known galaxy. The Itani, formerly the aggressors responsible for countless wartime horrors, now a wise and benevolent people, haunted by their dark past. The Neutral Territories, a loosely knit Nation of corporations, merchants and explorers (not to mention smugglers and pirates), now clinging to life in the more hostile regions of deep space."
-The Serco have gone from peaceful to brutal and warlike.
The Itani now claim to be wise and benevolent, but can a nation that has commited such atrocities in the past ever really redeem itself? I submit that it cannot!
-The Serco have gone from peaceful to brutal and warlike.
The Itani now claim to be wise and benevolent, but can a nation that has commited such atrocities in the past ever really redeem itself? I submit that it cannot!
But can a nation made up of smugglers and pirates redeem itself?
Smugglers? Pirates? HA! We may have pirates among us, but at least we don't elect them to run our country.