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Feb 02, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
While I have never seen a nation fall apart like the NT did, (Which by the way was actually kinda funny to watch from the outsided, and rather impressive that one person and one guild could do that) it will take a VERY long time to be rebuilt.
I truthfully wouldn't be surprised if NT wasn't rebuilt inside a year. Many of the vets that left I think, will need assurances and evidence that the NTs won't tolerate another renegade guild. The reason Serco is so successful is we contract attacks against renegades and don't really protect them.
Feb 02, 2004 danielky link
nevermind, if you saw what I put before edit, ignore it.
Feb 02, 2004 roguelazer link
Um... Pyroman? No. Phoenix was griefing everyone online yesterday (myself included). He didn't get an attack contracted against him. He got four red backers. Basically, you took in an SM member (phoenix) and gave him your own team of 1337 red valk killers. Explain the differnece here.
Feb 02, 2004 Magus link
"Blah blah blah, the SDF is honorable and great blah blah."

Why don't we call a spade a spade and just admit that the SDF is little more than a Serco street gang? Seriously folks, let's be honest with ourselves.
Feb 03, 2004 roguelazer link
You weren't on last night, were you? The SM's all removed SM from their name and added [SDF] back on. So here's the revised cronology:


SDF founded
Serco-NT treaty initiated
Rydell Incident
SDF interevenes, smooths Rydell incident
Itani defeated
Serco-NT treaty ends
SDF-Phoenix Treaty
SDF-Phoenix treaty ends
SMs break away from SDF
SDF-DSG allaince to destroy SMs
SDF-DSG police action ensues
SM-Phoenix Treaty begins
Mass Emmigration from NT to Serco starting with Lin and AgY
SM-Phoenix treaty ends
NT collapses
SM-Phoenix treaty reinstated
SMs collapse
SDF-DSG treaty ends
SM reabsorbed into SDF
Present day
Feb 03, 2004 Magus link
"Mass Emmigration from NT to Serco starting with Lin and AgY"

-Mass emigration starting with Lin and AgY? Why not try "Defection by Lin and AgY?" It's a lot more accurate. Yeesh.
Feb 03, 2004 SirCamps link
Yeah really, I only know of Lin, AgY, Phoenix, and Blitz (aka Trim) gone to Serco. Blitz really doesn't count though, he's just playing all nations for the benefit of more targets.

Pyroman_Ace, what's with the shameless plug for SDF? No one asked you for it or attacked SDF. Cool it.

Also, NT hasn't collapsed, at least in my opinion. No nation can ever collapse.
Feb 03, 2004 doran2k link
When you say that all the SM's moved back to SDF who are you talking about? I would like to know if there are any other SM's remaining besides Flea and myself.

Doran
Feb 03, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
A) Sorry bout the "shameless plug" not intended, just thats where SDF history began, (and SM history began there too since they are in fact renegades of the SDF)

B) The SDF will not reabsorbe the SMs, if you see any [SDF] player that is showing names similar to or that of an -SM- breakaway member, the SDF will gladly stand back and let them be killed. They betrayed us, we dont want them back.

C) If I find that [SDF] members are being impersonated by a pirate or other unsavory type trying to ruin or reputation, I will contract their killing out and also be speaking to a guide (probably Sherpa) and seeing about anything I can do to avoid tainting the bloodline

If you suspect an SDF member to be SM, check the SDF website for further details, under Command List, any pilot flying [SDF] tags not on that list is to be considered fair game.

SDF Website: www.geocities.com/adm_pyro/Enterprises.html