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Jan 18, 2004 SirCamps link
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4: Due to the SM's growth, Lin and AgY have started a mass emigration from NT to Serco, Lin and AgY being the first.
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I heard. However, I fear that Serco is growing too powerful and is becoming what Itani was just after the reset. With great power comes great responsibility, it's been said. Red has turned from beating back the Itani to griefing all gold on -SM-'s part. I've seen a lot of new SM that have no idea why they're being griefed. This alleged "police action" is an excuse to just kill people, and provide yourself with a base of legitimacy. Same with the DSG. It's ironic you call yourselves a "defense guild" yet you are at "war" with a guild made up of newbies.
Jan 19, 2004 mastacrasha911 link
Magus you should update your site more frequently then... That's not the list that was on the site a few days ago.
Jan 18, 2004 mastacrasha911 link
Well AKA doesn't fly SDF tags ever but he's the second in command so he should always represent SDF, and Elder God WAS flying his tags while he helped AKA trounce a newb....

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Jan 18, 2004 Impartial link
.... attack the SM why not. there are two members that aren't complete newbs 01 and I... pshh pathetic if you ask me
Jan 18, 2004 Magus link
AKA isn't a defense ship. Where are you getting these Fake DSes from?

Do I need to bust out the member-list again?

Defense Ship 5- CheeseWarfare

Defense Ship 7- Stick (Officer)

Defense Ships 8 - Magus (Officer)

Defense Ship 12- zamzx zik

Defense Ship 13- Hitania (inactive) (Officer)

Defense Ship 15- mOOse aka mjshinner
Jan 18, 2004 Forum Moderator link
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Jan 18, 2004 stick link
"Same with the DSG. It's ironic you call yourselves a "defense guild" yet you are at "war" with a guild made up of newbies."

/me points over to defenseships.tk (Hitania has posted the reasons for this 'war')

I think we should all calm down and stick(c)to a nice NON flaming thread... (can we all do that?)
Jan 19, 2004 Magus link
2 people are off because those people were removed a few days ago.
Jan 22, 2004 UncleDave link
Oh yeah, btw:

Defense Ship 2 = me, non DSG :p
Jan 22, 2004 mastacrasha911 link
And I never said AKA was a DSG, he's an SDF, the second in command of the SDF....
Jan 22, 2004 SirCamps link
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The -SM- Guild has [sic] repeatedly tarnished the reputation of the Defense Ships, as well as constantly griefing [sic], pirating, and committing [sic] other offenses. The DSG will not stand for this, [and] we [have] declare[d] a state of limited war. Limited [sic] [w]ar will consist of an attack on any -SM- member that is griefing [sic], annoying[,] or pirating a non-hostile craft. This shall continue until ... the threat posed by the -SM- Guild is such that any offensive is deemed unnecessary.
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Statement taken from DSG website on why a state of "limited war" is conducted against the SM (pardon the spelling, I had to correct it :P). Basically, the way you deal with SM is consistent with the way you deal with anyone. Griefing, pirating, (annoying?) people are "attacked." Why the special recognition? Or is this not really the case? Do you attack every -SM- member? I'd have you know that in my opinion, -SM- Serotonin is the only member that is consistently hostile, with -SM- 01 coming in a close second. The others aren't interested in fighting. I'd suggest you blacklist the offenders and remove this "limited war" propaganda statement. It's unnecessary.

Also, might I point out that any attack on Defense Ship 12 should not be construed as an attack on the DSG itself. He flies around, mostly in buses, and when not in an EC88, flies a Ragnarok that attacks people repeatedly. He'll the ragnarok until he runs out of money, and then switches back to the annoying bus. Ever consider discipline? He's not exactly burnishing the image of the DSG.
Jan 22, 2004 Magus link
Please refer all future complaints about DSes to our site: www.defenseships.uni.cc (Like you didn't know.)

But we'll deal with DS12. If nothing has happenned it is because nobody has noticed. Bring it to our attention faster next time.

And "limited war" essentially means SM members are automatically semi-blacklisted. If we see them do anything like greifing, pirating, etc. we attack them. No warnings, and no mercy until restitution is paid. This is as opposed to our current system with other pirates/greifers where we give 2 warnings before we engage. If they aren't interested in fighting, they simply need not fight and we'll get along fine. But if one is hostile, we'll deal with them.
Jan 24, 2004 Pyroman_Ace link
AKA is in fact 2nd in command of the SDF but acts inactive because he doesnt really communicate to the larger body of the SDF. Elder God however, is new and I will be speaking to him when I get my computer fixed (Im typing this from High School) so please bear with us.
Jan 26, 2004 Pirogoeth2 link
SDF can never be trusted. Know that now,they won't change, they will pirate, they won't stop. Careful, after all was it not you guys that hated the Neutral-Serco treaty? This is close to becoming one...
Jan 27, 2004 toshiro link
will you not stop this ongoing rant about two guilds who will most likely disappear long before an adequate guild support is implemented?
Jan 27, 2004 roguelazer link
Wow, two stupid guilds. Back in my day, the VPAI and the ISSP coexisted quite peaceably, and their functions were much more similar than those of the SDF and SM are. You DO know that both you guilds are the same thing in two colours, right? That's what I thought.
Jan 27, 2004 Forum Moderator link
Indeed. I won't be manipulated. Using foul language, even if you do use asterisks for the vowels, will not get the thread closed. You might end up not having to see the thread anymore though, if you get my meaning.
Jan 27, 2004 Pirogoeth2 link
Impartial... you're just risking having yourself banned...
Jan 27, 2004 DR link
for the record, SM are somewhat akin to pests :D

-outrider
Jan 27, 2004 mastacrasha911 link
And for the record SM and SDF are very desimilar, but go ahead and follow the herd thinking whatever you want. Hell I'm only the leader what do I know..

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