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i mean....... it's obvious. :-D
Earlier today Piment told the world he was no longer in void. Just a little while ago he slipped up and wrote:
[100] <Piment> I have been in VOID for at least 1.5 years
Case closed.
[100] <Piment> I have been in VOID for at least 1.5 years
Case closed.
Finger puppet guild du jour
Piment was in ONE before he was in VOID.
Shocker
Shocker
Perhaps I should rephrase that.
I HAD been in VOID for 1.5 years.
I HAD been in VOID for 1.5 years.
lol
I'm prepared to accept that RoL is not a VOID puppet guild, but I do not accept that they are neutral. Neutral guilds must go to great lengths to establish themselves as such early on. RoL has failed to observe the basic tenants of neutrality from the get go, merely declaring that they are 'neutral' without any supporting actions to the claim.
They appear to be like so many other guilds that claim neutrality as some sort of entitlement, rather than actually perform any actions that distinguish them as neutral.
The same can be said for many guilds before them.
They appear to be like so many other guilds that claim neutrality as some sort of entitlement, rather than actually perform any actions that distinguish them as neutral.
The same can be said for many guilds before them.
I confirm TheRedSpy's claim of us not being neutral. Yesterday I discussed this with Thor Wotansen and RoL is no longer considered a neutral nation.
Yeah. Can't really be neutral when you attack people, no matter who it is.
"Can't really be neutral when you attack people, no matter who it is."
False. Neutrality is not a synonym for pacifism or nonaggression, and it's not an absolute. It's relative to specific conflicts. For example, if Alice and Bob are feuding, and neither one of them gives any shits about Eve, then I can kill Eve while remaining neutral to Alice and Bob. Eve would consider me to be non-neutral to her, but even she'd have to admit that I'm neutral with respect to Alice and Bob. Unless she's a fucking idiot, and she probably is. That's probably why I'm killing her. Furthermore, if I kill Alice and Bob, I'm also still neutral with regards to their conflict, if not with regards to them personally. Things get more complicated if I only kill Alice. If I killed Alice because I like Bob more, or because he paid me, then I'm probably not neutral to their conflict. If I killed Alice because she saw me killing Eve and I was concerned that she might rat me out to the cops, then killing her doesn't make me non-neutral despite having had an uneven impact on her and Bob's feud. I killed her for unrelated reasons; saying that it puts me on Bob's side would be like saying a wildfire or a rabid dog is on Bob's side. Convincing Alice's family of this, however, may prove difficult. Easier to just kill them too.
Point is, you very much can attack people and still have a valid claim of neutrality with regards to specific unrelated conflicts. Convincing people of your claim can be hard, though, and in many cases they don't actually care and are really just looking for an excuse that lets them pretend to still hold the moral high ground as they attack you.
False. Neutrality is not a synonym for pacifism or nonaggression, and it's not an absolute. It's relative to specific conflicts. For example, if Alice and Bob are feuding, and neither one of them gives any shits about Eve, then I can kill Eve while remaining neutral to Alice and Bob. Eve would consider me to be non-neutral to her, but even she'd have to admit that I'm neutral with respect to Alice and Bob. Unless she's a fucking idiot, and she probably is. That's probably why I'm killing her. Furthermore, if I kill Alice and Bob, I'm also still neutral with regards to their conflict, if not with regards to them personally. Things get more complicated if I only kill Alice. If I killed Alice because I like Bob more, or because he paid me, then I'm probably not neutral to their conflict. If I killed Alice because she saw me killing Eve and I was concerned that she might rat me out to the cops, then killing her doesn't make me non-neutral despite having had an uneven impact on her and Bob's feud. I killed her for unrelated reasons; saying that it puts me on Bob's side would be like saying a wildfire or a rabid dog is on Bob's side. Convincing Alice's family of this, however, may prove difficult. Easier to just kill them too.
Point is, you very much can attack people and still have a valid claim of neutrality with regards to specific unrelated conflicts. Convincing people of your claim can be hard, though, and in many cases they don't actually care and are really just looking for an excuse that lets them pretend to still hold the moral high ground as they attack you.

That is a very impractical pizza; it would have to be either cut into very long slices, or else into smaller pieces that mostly lack crust. Either way results in the pieces being unpleasant to handle, detracting from the joy that pizza is supposed to bring. Pizza Hut's personal pan pizzas are my favorite, though I don't like how greasy they tend to be. The Book It! program was genius.
I don't mean to patronize, but pizza hut is disgusting. Way too greasy, too buttery. Their dough is plain and boring at best without the buckets of butter that they pour all over the crust.
Have you tried a true wood-fired Neapolitan pizza?
Have you tried a true wood-fired Neapolitan pizza?
Rin; Looks like slices made for folding. Not my favorite, but some people will defend it to the death and get very heated if you call it "impractical"
(Also jj that 100% is patronizing, so either you do mean to, or else you lack self control :P Food/taste is 100% a personal experience, and to suggest that a popular franchise is "disgusting" is just being an elitist!)
(Also jj that 100% is patronizing, so either you do mean to, or else you lack self control :P Food/taste is 100% a personal experience, and to suggest that a popular franchise is "disgusting" is just being an elitist!)
Ah, but it's not just about taste, smittens.
It's also about health. Everyone knows that too much butter isn't good for the heart. I wouldn't want pizzasgood to drop dead someday after a massive heart attack. Is it wrong of me to suggest a more healthy variation of pizza?
It's also about health. Everyone knows that too much butter isn't good for the heart. I wouldn't want pizzasgood to drop dead someday after a massive heart attack. Is it wrong of me to suggest a more healthy variation of pizza?
Guild motd claims RoL is merging with VOID, lots of members have quit, and the guild bank is gone. Mehhhhhhh, i wanna see a new guild that doesnt get sucked into these annoying politics someday.
While we talk about pizza, ever try little ceasars?
While we talk about pizza, ever try little ceasars?
"i wanna see a new guild that doesnt get sucked into these annoying politics someday"
No such thing is possible.
No such thing is possible.
Book it! Ftw
So Luxen, describe the guild you want.
The only Neapolitan thing I've (knowingly) had is ice cream. I'm not what you'd call a sophisticated diner. :)
As for health, well, yeah. Fortunately somebody came up with this nifty idea called moderation, which says that it's totally okay to eat things that aren't super healthy as long as you don't do it all the time. Besides, being fat would be impractical.
As for health, well, yeah. Fortunately somebody came up with this nifty idea called moderation, which says that it's totally okay to eat things that aren't super healthy as long as you don't do it all the time. Besides, being fat would be impractical.