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It's still a topic for me because of the way [SKV] has chosen to conduct their war with [TGFT]. Even if [ITAN] was also at war with [TGFT] the problems with the alliances [SKV] has nurtured would still cause a rift. If [SKV] was more of a presence it would be better (would not need those alliances), but since they are not they should discontinue working with pirates and others who are usually their enemies.
Just speaking for myself this is the main reason I keep talking about it. And since there are no rational conditions for victory or defeat I don't imaging anything will change any time soon.
Just speaking for myself this is the main reason I keep talking about it. And since there are no rational conditions for victory or defeat I don't imaging anything will change any time soon.
I assumed you were responding to TRS's TGFT rambling, so it wasn't really directed at you. I commend you for sticking to nationalism, you may be one of the only true Itani nationalists left.
I commend you for sticking to nationalism, you may be one of the only true Itani nationalists left.
Harpo.... a true Itani nationalist? What a sick joke. He can't fight for shit and he's far more interested in manufacturing and generating profits than anything else in VO. You're more likely to find him counting monies and making FFSAs than shooting at Sercos. Hence why he was more than happy to betray SKV in favor of friendly relations with the vile, self-interested TGFT.
Thanks a ton for making me spew coffee all over my keyboard!
Harpo.... a true Itani nationalist? What a sick joke. He can't fight for shit and he's far more interested in manufacturing and generating profits than anything else in VO. You're more likely to find him counting monies and making FFSAs than shooting at Sercos. Hence why he was more than happy to betray SKV in favor of friendly relations with the vile, self-interested TGFT.
Thanks a ton for making me spew coffee all over my keyboard!
Harpo.... a true Itani nationalist? What a sick joke.
^CITATION NEEDED
Greenwall would very much like to be TRS 2. Evidently he looks up to him, copying him left, right, and center.
Actually it's on jordan/f/14 to substantiate his claim that Harpo is a true itani nationalist. He has no clue what a nationalist really is.
Actually it's on jordan/f/14 to substantiate his claim that Harpo is a true itani nationalist. He has no clue what a nationalist really is.
Can always count on joylessjoker to prove my point about repeating things he's heard from others and knows little about. There is always a grain of truth in the lie to make it believable to those who don't care to look a bit harder.
My words are 100% based on personal, direct observations of you.
You don't know how much I've been observing you because you're clueless about the alt that I have in Itan.
Naturally you disagree with my observations because they don't quite paint you in a good way, nevertheless I'm not the only one who have those views of you.
You don't know how much I've been observing you because you're clueless about the alt that I have in Itan.
Naturally you disagree with my observations because they don't quite paint you in a good way, nevertheless I'm not the only one who have those views of you.
Easy to make a claim like that, I could claim to be in RED and nobody could contradict it. Maybe it's even true. So tell me how I spent my time in VO last week?
https://www.vendetta-online.com/h/cargostats.html
https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/dwstats
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I'm not known for taking sides (/me chuckles to himself) but, objectively speaking, it seems like if your name is on either of these lists, then you can claim that you are a nationalist. Since these are basically the only in-game nationalist mechanics it really is the only thing one can go by in determining if someone is engaging in nationalism.
If anyone really wants to back their claims of being a nationalist with citations, I'd suggest that they get their names on one of these lists.
However, it is my hunch that the "nationalists" will say one of two things:
1) "Oh dude nationalism is dead. deneb and ctc doesn't even matter."
2) "I don't need to prove to anyone that I'm a nationalist. I know what I am."
Either way, you look like an idiot flying around claiming to be a nationalist when you don't even support your own nation's war efforts.
https://www.vendetta-online.com/x/dwstats
^ [CITATION]
I'm not known for taking sides (/me chuckles to himself) but, objectively speaking, it seems like if your name is on either of these lists, then you can claim that you are a nationalist. Since these are basically the only in-game nationalist mechanics it really is the only thing one can go by in determining if someone is engaging in nationalism.
If anyone really wants to back their claims of being a nationalist with citations, I'd suggest that they get their names on one of these lists.
However, it is my hunch that the "nationalists" will say one of two things:
1) "Oh dude nationalism is dead. deneb and ctc doesn't even matter."
2) "I don't need to prove to anyone that I'm a nationalist. I know what I am."
Either way, you look like an idiot flying around claiming to be a nationalist when you don't even support your own nation's war efforts.
Sorry to disappoint, I'm not some creepy stalker keeping track of every single second you're on VO.
I've merely seen enough of you and your patterns over the years to fairly discern what you are.
I've merely seen enough of you and your patterns over the years to fairly discern what you are.
Gee, I'm on both lists.
jj, unless you were on the [itan] council you have no idea what went on in the deliberations and votes surrounding the war. Your rhetoric suggests to me that you have no clue what went on, and you're just writing to try to be relevant.
jj, unless you were on the [itan] council you have no idea what went on in the deliberations and votes surrounding the war. Your rhetoric suggests to me that you have no clue what went on, and you're just writing to try to be relevant.
Darth you're forgetting Border patrol and clearing warvoys. There is no fancy stats pages for these nationalist activities.
If there was, would we see your name on it?
If so, then you, my friend, could call yourself a nationalist. Otherwise, you should step your nationalism up.
But also don't stop fighting me in Sedina B-8 cause that's fun, and you're one of the only people who willingly shows up just for fights.
:D
If so, then you, my friend, could call yourself a nationalist. Otherwise, you should step your nationalism up.
But also don't stop fighting me in Sedina B-8 cause that's fun, and you're one of the only people who willingly shows up just for fights.
:D
War voys are about the only fun nationalist things to do. You would see almost all ONE on that page if it existed.
Do I smell a suggestion thread coming soon?
Why waste the time. There are more important things that need to be addressed
I assure you, it's not VOID, TRI or TGFT Serco that clear out Ukari A10.
Harpo, don't you see? He has been on council this whole time....
I'M JOYLESSJOKER!!!!!!
Sorry to betray you like this
I'M JOYLESSJOKER!!!!!!
Sorry to betray you like this
Nobody wants to see Deneb and CtC made into the defining characteristics of being a nationalist. It's important for the community to deprecate parts of the game that are in all truth irrelevant and requiring a rework. In any other game Deneb and CtC would have been reworked or removed years ago. Instead we get ports; again I reiterate, the lack of featureset improvement has an impact on the roleplay.
PvP for your nation is nationalism. When I fight, its done beside my serco teammates and selected allies who have earned the right. Others may decide not to do that, but I do not endorse it and nor does the council of RED who's absence from the game is explained entirely by a lack of improvement in the nationalist featureset.
Sieger: I think you are kissing each others... rings. Haha. You're actiely working together on station conquest. Good job man.
We can't say the word sometimes used to describe a donkey anymore or the post gets removed and nobody can follow the story anymore, so yes, rings.. or sphincters.. take your pick.
I have not seen any activity between SKV and ONE on station conquest. I have seen SKV keys to which ONE members have been added; this is not new or controversial. If you can post a video of some SKV and ONE pilots working together that's a different story, but you cannot.
SKV is an enemy of RED, it's an enemy of ONE. Both guilds aim to remove all but Serco pilots of good standing from every sector and usually succeed in doing so. Usually it's only a matter of looking at you funny and you oblige and leave the sector. It's as though you're a Serco nationalist too!
csgno1: I'm probably the only one posting here that doesn't have nor ever had an alt in TGFT. I was just one of the voting council members that did not pass a motion to join the war with TGFT yet somehow in the minds of some it's all my doing. You've been fed false info, you should accept that fact and move on.
Read my post more carefully, I said you are a TGFT sympathizing member of Itan, not a TGFT alt.
You are also here referring to the Itan vote to join the war with SKV, whereas I was referring to the previous TGFT war with RED which was the precursor to that war.. following?
jordanmorgan14f: [Harpo] may be one of the only true Itani nationalists left.
He's an Itani nationalist all right, but he's far from a good one. What joylessjoker is referring to is his over-interest in supporting the objectives of TGFT, rather than a traditional PvP nationalist agenda, which can be seen from his support of various Itan initiatives to support TGFT, including his lack of support for SKV in their war against TGFT.
As I understand it he is a contributor to the fracturing in relationship between SKV and Itan and therefore a big part of the reason that Itan is not as active as it used to be anymore.
csgno1: Easy to make a claim like that, I could claim to be in RED and nobody could contradict it. Maybe it's even true. So tell me how I spent my time in VO last week?
You did not spend it as a member of RED. If you are a member of RED you are one of the four accounts which I am not personally acquainted with on our guild roster, and those have not played since August 2015 at the latest.
smittens: I'M JOYLESSJOKER!!!!!!
I knew it!
PvP for your nation is nationalism. When I fight, its done beside my serco teammates and selected allies who have earned the right. Others may decide not to do that, but I do not endorse it and nor does the council of RED who's absence from the game is explained entirely by a lack of improvement in the nationalist featureset.
Sieger: I think you are kissing each others... rings. Haha. You're actiely working together on station conquest. Good job man.
We can't say the word sometimes used to describe a donkey anymore or the post gets removed and nobody can follow the story anymore, so yes, rings.. or sphincters.. take your pick.
I have not seen any activity between SKV and ONE on station conquest. I have seen SKV keys to which ONE members have been added; this is not new or controversial. If you can post a video of some SKV and ONE pilots working together that's a different story, but you cannot.
SKV is an enemy of RED, it's an enemy of ONE. Both guilds aim to remove all but Serco pilots of good standing from every sector and usually succeed in doing so. Usually it's only a matter of looking at you funny and you oblige and leave the sector. It's as though you're a Serco nationalist too!
csgno1: I'm probably the only one posting here that doesn't have nor ever had an alt in TGFT. I was just one of the voting council members that did not pass a motion to join the war with TGFT yet somehow in the minds of some it's all my doing. You've been fed false info, you should accept that fact and move on.
Read my post more carefully, I said you are a TGFT sympathizing member of Itan, not a TGFT alt.
You are also here referring to the Itan vote to join the war with SKV, whereas I was referring to the previous TGFT war with RED which was the precursor to that war.. following?
jordanmorgan14f: [Harpo] may be one of the only true Itani nationalists left.
He's an Itani nationalist all right, but he's far from a good one. What joylessjoker is referring to is his over-interest in supporting the objectives of TGFT, rather than a traditional PvP nationalist agenda, which can be seen from his support of various Itan initiatives to support TGFT, including his lack of support for SKV in their war against TGFT.
As I understand it he is a contributor to the fracturing in relationship between SKV and Itan and therefore a big part of the reason that Itan is not as active as it used to be anymore.
csgno1: Easy to make a claim like that, I could claim to be in RED and nobody could contradict it. Maybe it's even true. So tell me how I spent my time in VO last week?
You did not spend it as a member of RED. If you are a member of RED you are one of the four accounts which I am not personally acquainted with on our guild roster, and those have not played since August 2015 at the latest.
smittens: I'M JOYLESSJOKER!!!!!!
I knew it!
I am TGFT and Harpo has went against me many times. I think you all should pay his nationalism more respect. I'm not sure where he and I stand, but I give him space when I see him. Search the forum history to see how he thinks of me.