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I cant help you with your vendetta, nor am i interested to.
BUT, if you need help building your trident, contact me ingame.
BUT, if you need help building your trident, contact me ingame.
It was truly heartwarming to experience the outcry of support I received last afternoon and night.
To the Trade and manufacturing guilds:
I would not ask you to hurt your bottom line by actively going to war with TGFT, but rather fight them as you have been, in the market. Any amount of help with station access, parts trades, and possible credit opportunities would be greatly appreciated.
To the patriotic Itani and Serco beginning to fight on this thread:
Unless you are here to pledge you support for my cause, or are here to give a reason why you can not, please go to literally any other post on this forum. This is a UIT issue at its core. However, I will readily fight with or for any Nationalist that has taken an interest in the activities of TGFT.
HtH,
Independent
To the Trade and manufacturing guilds:
I would not ask you to hurt your bottom line by actively going to war with TGFT, but rather fight them as you have been, in the market. Any amount of help with station access, parts trades, and possible credit opportunities would be greatly appreciated.
To the patriotic Itani and Serco beginning to fight on this thread:
Unless you are here to pledge you support for my cause, or are here to give a reason why you can not, please go to literally any other post on this forum. This is a UIT issue at its core. However, I will readily fight with or for any Nationalist that has taken an interest in the activities of TGFT.
HtH,
Independent
Herman, I am sorry to hear that you left TGFT with bad feelings. I wish you brought it up on tgft.org for us to know before you acted. I supported and still support everyone in TGFT to build their own tridents. To this end I divide my time between corporations like PAM and individual builder not in the tiers of these corporations. You must also have observed that neither me, nor many in TGFT benefited from these build processes. I personally spent hundreds of million credits and donated materials worth billions to all.
Unfortunately, building a trident is a process with up and downs. I believe condemning Poof and FP just because they were lucky is not fair.
I hope my words as a free trader who considers you a friend carry some weight and you are open for a discussion on tgft.org or as a PM.
Your levi hunting buddy and builder,
-Tokkana Slano-
Unfortunately, building a trident is a process with up and downs. I believe condemning Poof and FP just because they were lucky is not fair.
I hope my words as a free trader who considers you a friend carry some weight and you are open for a discussion on tgft.org or as a PM.
Your levi hunting buddy and builder,
-Tokkana Slano-
@Jashen:
The fact that you're STILL supporting TGFT after mountains and mountains of undisputed evidence of TGFT's misdeeds and corruption drives your credibility so deep into the ground that it's brunt to crisp from the heat of the earth's core.
The fact that you're STILL supporting TGFT after mountains and mountains of undisputed evidence of TGFT's misdeeds and corruption drives your credibility so deep into the ground that it's brunt to crisp from the heat of the earth's core.
@Jashen


TS I have always and most likely will always consider you a friend as well. That goes for a lot of members truthfully, and I too am sorry that many will be pulled into this despite their innocence.
I also want it to be known that I hold no single member of TGFT solely responsible. However what I have witnessed in the past few months is a symphony of corruption, comprised of many members.
I did go the route of TGFT.org first, and did PM first. I was told to wait, encouraged to continue my donations, and then not contacted again.
If you mean why I didn't contact the entire guild, it was due to the fact that those I believed the most responsible were also all getting council positions. I also knew that players like you, who had no part in the corruption would end up donating to me. Just because there are selfless folks doesn't mean they should feel the need to pay for others crimes, yet the nature of TGFT would have made that likely if handled from the inside.
Four major blows convinced me to leave, and forgive me HHTT if I have the situation wrong.
1. While still in TGFT HHTT asked for us to Levi hunt. We all agreed to do it over the weekend. HHTT missed the first one as it was early. I told him we would do more and he could still get his Agg too. And we did, two more the same day. Yet somehow all of them went to PAM. The next week HHTT left and formed a new guild.
2. After I had donated tons of stuff to help get our five members dents built, without even asking us, PAM promises a dent to pirates!
The reason was so VOID would help with stations. Well after you promised them a dent they no longer needed the station, and it brought all of their enemies on us.
3. Understanding that some were farther along then me, I was told we would be building them all at once, and everyone in the whole guild was working together, it was great. But that stopped when the leaders had their dents. RL issues happen, and I understand that. But I feel as though I was lied too about them being produced all at once. I donated my stuff because I saw really good teamwork and thought it would be mutually beneficial. After the only thing in my hold was a reactor, and the CO, Lt had dents, all of the teamwork seemed to stop.
4. Yesterday I finally got around to reading the RP forums and found out that I lost my own Agg because FAMY was being keyed to our stations by TGFT and pirating us.
So it was time to leave. To fight the corruption from the outside. I will get back what I donated under false promise, fight for what was promised to me, as well as seek justice for anyone else who feels was wronged by TGFT.
HtH
I also want it to be known that I hold no single member of TGFT solely responsible. However what I have witnessed in the past few months is a symphony of corruption, comprised of many members.
I did go the route of TGFT.org first, and did PM first. I was told to wait, encouraged to continue my donations, and then not contacted again.
If you mean why I didn't contact the entire guild, it was due to the fact that those I believed the most responsible were also all getting council positions. I also knew that players like you, who had no part in the corruption would end up donating to me. Just because there are selfless folks doesn't mean they should feel the need to pay for others crimes, yet the nature of TGFT would have made that likely if handled from the inside.
Four major blows convinced me to leave, and forgive me HHTT if I have the situation wrong.
1. While still in TGFT HHTT asked for us to Levi hunt. We all agreed to do it over the weekend. HHTT missed the first one as it was early. I told him we would do more and he could still get his Agg too. And we did, two more the same day. Yet somehow all of them went to PAM. The next week HHTT left and formed a new guild.
2. After I had donated tons of stuff to help get our five members dents built, without even asking us, PAM promises a dent to pirates!
The reason was so VOID would help with stations. Well after you promised them a dent they no longer needed the station, and it brought all of their enemies on us.
3. Understanding that some were farther along then me, I was told we would be building them all at once, and everyone in the whole guild was working together, it was great. But that stopped when the leaders had their dents. RL issues happen, and I understand that. But I feel as though I was lied too about them being produced all at once. I donated my stuff because I saw really good teamwork and thought it would be mutually beneficial. After the only thing in my hold was a reactor, and the CO, Lt had dents, all of the teamwork seemed to stop.
4. Yesterday I finally got around to reading the RP forums and found out that I lost my own Agg because FAMY was being keyed to our stations by TGFT and pirating us.
So it was time to leave. To fight the corruption from the outside. I will get back what I donated under false promise, fight for what was promised to me, as well as seek justice for anyone else who feels was wronged by TGFT.
HtH
Joyles, you either know me or you do not. I either honored my deals or did not. The same is true for every free trader in TGFT. My credibility is not connected to you, neither to anyone's opinion about TGFT, but the people I dealt with.
In parallel, I am yet to see a list of the alleged atrocities committed by TGFT. Usual trolls will say it is "written in the logs and history of VO" now and I will say "piss off and go crawl under a rock".
In parallel, I am yet to see a list of the alleged atrocities committed by TGFT. Usual trolls will say it is "written in the logs and history of VO" now and I will say "piss off and go crawl under a rock".
We tried to tell them


@herman
how do you find out you lost something by reading the forums? This is very curious indeed!
Also, it simply sounds that you are A) angry that you don't have a trident yourself, despite helping build many others and B) dissapointed that the inevitable happened, in that when people got tridents they stopped being active.
Tridents are endgames, so you really should have focused on building your own before investing so much time in others if you truly wanted one for yourself. There are those in game who really have no use or desire for a trident, and they are happy to just putter along and help with other people's builds indefinitely.
I think you are very right to feel slighted, but I also think that your public statements and accusations are not productive at all if your goal is to get your own Trident. Doing so you just inflame tensions and add new enemies that you wouldn't have had otherwise. Or is that ultimately what you wanted? You like to pvp?
Best of luck!
VOID.
how do you find out you lost something by reading the forums? This is very curious indeed!
Also, it simply sounds that you are A) angry that you don't have a trident yourself, despite helping build many others and B) dissapointed that the inevitable happened, in that when people got tridents they stopped being active.
Tridents are endgames, so you really should have focused on building your own before investing so much time in others if you truly wanted one for yourself. There are those in game who really have no use or desire for a trident, and they are happy to just putter along and help with other people's builds indefinitely.
I think you are very right to feel slighted, but I also think that your public statements and accusations are not productive at all if your goal is to get your own Trident. Doing so you just inflame tensions and add new enemies that you wouldn't have had otherwise. Or is that ultimately what you wanted? You like to pvp?
Best of luck!
VOID.
@Herman the Hermit
I have resigned my position in Trident Arms Syndicate and will be assuming command of HHTT to join you in Vendetta against our former guild mates. I know all too well the truth behind your list of grievances and the failure of the TGFT/PAM council to address them. They must be taught the errors of their communistic ways! I offer you partnership in HHTT, rebranded as Herman & Hornblower Trade & Transport. Help me realize the full potential of this guild while smiting those who would abandon free market capitalism for the false promise of a socialist paradise. Help me slay the dragon that salvates upon his pile of a trillion credits whilst his followers want for a 50mil credit aggregate.
I have resigned my position in Trident Arms Syndicate and will be assuming command of HHTT to join you in Vendetta against our former guild mates. I know all too well the truth behind your list of grievances and the failure of the TGFT/PAM council to address them. They must be taught the errors of their communistic ways! I offer you partnership in HHTT, rebranded as Herman & Hornblower Trade & Transport. Help me realize the full potential of this guild while smiting those who would abandon free market capitalism for the false promise of a socialist paradise. Help me slay the dragon that salvates upon his pile of a trillion credits whilst his followers want for a 50mil credit aggregate.
Oh, sorry....I didn't find out I lost my Agg, just found out how it happened. Also don't think this is an attempt to get a trident. This is about not having what happened to me happen to others.
I will continue to work with competition and push PAM out of the market.
I'm willing to pvp.
And I will complete my dent, however I will be far less trusting while going about it.
I will continue to work with competition and push PAM out of the market.
I'm willing to pvp.
And I will complete my dent, however I will be far less trusting while going about it.
YES!
HHTT it would be an honor! Expect contact tonight!
You are a true light in the darkness, I have missed you my friend!
HtH
HHTT it would be an honor! Expect contact tonight!
You are a true light in the darkness, I have missed you my friend!
HtH
@Herman, I understand your anger and outburst. I still think there is a misunderstanding as PAM is already securing all aggs required for tier 1 and most of tier 2 build as we speak. Everything will resume to normal in a few weeks. It seems you find your place with HH, so wish you two best of luck. Neither me, nore many in TGFT have no vedetta against either of you, I believe it to be mutual. I also believe the rest can be solved with diplomacy.
I hope to talk to you first chance away from those trolls trying to smear anything they find on TGFT. You have your opinion and it can be discussed, any material loss can be compensated, but those trolls only wants to amplify everything to an extend that whole verse will turn on us. Thanks to decent people who will not follow them.
-Tokkana Slano-
I hope to talk to you first chance away from those trolls trying to smear anything they find on TGFT. You have your opinion and it can be discussed, any material loss can be compensated, but those trolls only wants to amplify everything to an extend that whole verse will turn on us. Thanks to decent people who will not follow them.
-Tokkana Slano-
I also believe the rest can be solved with diplomacy.
lmao. TGFT diplomacy is always the equivalent of "our way or the highway!" Never any kind of compromises.
lmao. TGFT diplomacy is always the equivalent of "our way or the highway!" Never any kind of compromises.
I have said my piece.
Out respect for you, and to show that this is not just trolling, future contact will be made privately.
Out respect for you, and to show that this is not just trolling, future contact will be made privately.
@joyles, you never dealed with me, so cut the crap. I want you to get a fact, so I will say it slowly:
I. am. a. free. trader.
I can deal with anyone, anywhere, anyhow, and those who knows me knows me. You? No, you do not.
I. am. a. free. trader.
I can deal with anyone, anywhere, anyhow, and those who knows me knows me. You? No, you do not.
@herman, just to clarify, I did not include you in the trolls. Please do not think othervise. I get your point, just do not want to feed the trolls here.
Lmao. You're not. a. Free. Trader. As long as you are part of TGFT and paying that monthly fee for socialistic benefits.