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As soon as the capability is afforded to players all nationalist guilds will regulate their home space. TGFT is going to have to negotiate successfully with all of them and we know they are incapable of doing that. All TGFT is doing, and has been doing for years, is exploiting the lack of proper faction exclusivity and player control to rack up pointlessly large stockpiles of credits which have no intrinsic value.
If you are honestly purporting to complain about AAU actually inserting meaning into the TGFT parade of futile penny pushing then you're clearly not seeing the bigger picture are ya?
L.U.L.Z
If you are honestly purporting to complain about AAU actually inserting meaning into the TGFT parade of futile penny pushing then you're clearly not seeing the bigger picture are ya?
L.U.L.Z
First rule of role play..we don't talk about role play..
Dues get paid when people want to be in said organization, or they can leave. Quite different from having someone demand payment under threat of violence. If I declared myself king of the UIT and demanded daily tribute would you pay?
I would! Long live the king!
...what's in it for me?
So, Only Kopia onol and bob the skutter from AUU actually play now westie has left them ? Nice try Espionage / TRS , but I rather think TGFT saw right through that one.
As for our inability to negotiate, we can. We told you to get stuffed because we just didn't like your arrogance.
Controversy ? If that is what you were trying to stir up you have once again failed. TGFT negotiations made sure of that .
As for your usual " TGFT is doing well, we need to ask the devs to change the game" rhetoric . Have you any idea how many threads with the same whining attitude I could dig out if I tried ? What next, you want TGFT pks to count double or you will ragequit like you did over ctc double deliveries?
TGFT will continue to live well in vo, It is a people game and we play as a guild. We welcome change, we have the ability and resources to adapt and carry on.
As for our inability to negotiate, we can. We told you to get stuffed because we just didn't like your arrogance.
Controversy ? If that is what you were trying to stir up you have once again failed. TGFT negotiations made sure of that .
As for your usual " TGFT is doing well, we need to ask the devs to change the game" rhetoric . Have you any idea how many threads with the same whining attitude I could dig out if I tried ? What next, you want TGFT pks to count double or you will ragequit like you did over ctc double deliveries?
TGFT will continue to live well in vo, It is a people game and we play as a guild. We welcome change, we have the ability and resources to adapt and carry on.
TGFT negotiations are a joke. Sure, you "negotiated" with PA... which was on the verge of collapse... the result? Several members left PA for other guilds, two started their own... one is flourishing, the other merged with that guild.
TGFT's neutrality? A pathetic joke... at one time or another, TGFT has aligned itself with nationalists, pirates and one of VO's most notorious "griefers"... your own little lapdog... Roda Slane, who bends his actions to your will.
TGFT's days are numbered, like any classical villain in any classic literature... TGFT will fall.
And RED will dance a jig of joy upon your smoldering corpses.... it is the nature of things, for empires to rise and fall...
... and try as you might... resist with your considerable finance... you cannot withstand the combined might of RED of BR1... TGFT will fall, TGFT will fail... and like all the great nations of the past... will be ground into dust beneath the boots of our soldiers. TGFT will falter and fall when faced with honorable warriors of the Serco Dominion. Our allies will, as our own selves will bathe in the blood of TGFT's leadership... and TGFT will become the thing of obscure urban rumor... while RED and BR1... will become the things of LEGEND.
TGFT's neutrality? A pathetic joke... at one time or another, TGFT has aligned itself with nationalists, pirates and one of VO's most notorious "griefers"... your own little lapdog... Roda Slane, who bends his actions to your will.
TGFT's days are numbered, like any classical villain in any classic literature... TGFT will fall.
And RED will dance a jig of joy upon your smoldering corpses.... it is the nature of things, for empires to rise and fall...
... and try as you might... resist with your considerable finance... you cannot withstand the combined might of RED of BR1... TGFT will fall, TGFT will fail... and like all the great nations of the past... will be ground into dust beneath the boots of our soldiers. TGFT will falter and fall when faced with honorable warriors of the Serco Dominion. Our allies will, as our own selves will bathe in the blood of TGFT's leadership... and TGFT will become the thing of obscure urban rumor... while RED and BR1... will become the things of LEGEND.
I have no alts in AAU...
"As for your usual " TGFT is doing well, we need to ask the devs to change the game" rhetoric . "
No statement could be further from the truth. TGFT couldn't be doing worse. Not only have your former allies turned against you, your falsified reputation for 'neutrality' has vanished and you are making new enemies by the day. AAU being the prime example; under strong leadership from Munny they oppose your absurdity calling you pirates on a daily basis and as soon as their leader vanishes you have your dodgy back-room 'negotiations' with them and suddenly all is well? Hah, sounds like a political assassination to me.
Has it occurred to you that almost every guild you have 'successful negotiations' with ends up basically extinct and every successful living guild describes you as 'unreasonable at best' or another colourful synonym? Your only remaining supporters are fanatics or Itani who are just waiting for the day your usefulness evaporates so they can discard you like aquean ore.
What has TGFT lost this year? It's reputation, it's allies, its recruitment momentum. What has TGFT gained? Credits. AAU is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to those who will come willing to fervently oppose your ridiculous incarnation of a 'free trading guild'
No statement could be further from the truth. TGFT couldn't be doing worse. Not only have your former allies turned against you, your falsified reputation for 'neutrality' has vanished and you are making new enemies by the day. AAU being the prime example; under strong leadership from Munny they oppose your absurdity calling you pirates on a daily basis and as soon as their leader vanishes you have your dodgy back-room 'negotiations' with them and suddenly all is well? Hah, sounds like a political assassination to me.
Has it occurred to you that almost every guild you have 'successful negotiations' with ends up basically extinct and every successful living guild describes you as 'unreasonable at best' or another colourful synonym? Your only remaining supporters are fanatics or Itani who are just waiting for the day your usefulness evaporates so they can discard you like aquean ore.
What has TGFT lost this year? It's reputation, it's allies, its recruitment momentum. What has TGFT gained? Credits. AAU is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to those who will come willing to fervently oppose your ridiculous incarnation of a 'free trading guild'
/me yawns
AAU was a bunch of RED and FAMY alts.
TGFT's reputation hasn't really changed. It hasn't affected them much in the past, either.
TGFT has been here a long, long time and will be here for much, much longer.
Not sure what you mean by TGFT's "former allies."
TGFT's reputation hasn't really changed. It hasn't affected them much in the past, either.
TGFT has been here a long, long time and will be here for much, much longer.
Not sure what you mean by TGFT's "former allies."
^ Lol, here he comes, he's Mr. Informed!
For the record.. I (Munny) am no alternate char. I am unique and have no "alts" of my own. There is no person in this game that "controls" my actions. I am not a subject of FAMY RED or BR1 or any other guild/person/faction/player/dev or any human being in any way. AAU is an idea I had because I noticed an absence of representation for UIT players. After I started the guild it became apparent that my biggest problem would NOT be nationalist guilds at all. Which is what it SHOULD be. Rather I would have to deal with guilds that do not honor the faction system already in place. So in the interest of galactic health, I made THEM my enemy!
TGFT is NOT A PEACEFUL GUILD, they have combatant players who do not honor national space. They also have boasted about having spies in all the major guilds, including mine. Even now they refuse to engage in the roleplay already created by game developers, but would rather issue personal attacks on me for a guild that DOES.
Atana Slick.. aka Westacular came to help me start AAU with his new alt. Everything he did was in alignment with my own ideas about what AAU should be. Removing him from my guild has saddened me greatly, I considered him to be my friend in the game. There are some who will not allow others to seperate alts. It was Savet that talked to me and suggested that Atana was not healthy for AAU or for FAMY either and that it may be best if he was removed. After a long discussion with Atana Slick he was removed from the guild and to that end he went on a violent rampage in UIT space killing many innocent UIT nationals in the process.
How will TGFT answer for using their spies to destroy everything good in the verse? You can know now that TGFT will always be an enemy of AAU. For your atrocities against me personally, your atrocities against my guild, and your refusal to participate in the roleplay of the game in general.
As a UIT nationalist I know that the UIT is swollen with vagabonds and pirates .. traders and miners.. explorers and innovators. My enemies often wear the same colors as I do and yet help the destructive ones. This is the nature of UIT though, and I have set out to distinguish between my enemies knowing sometimes they will be UIT nationals. I have indeed made friendship with FAMY and through this they have allowed my members unparalleled access to gray space. A luxury no other guild enjoys except AAU. I have also had a good relationship with BR1 and RED.. although there have not been any formal talks to define how we would interact. I understand they often hold their fire on AAU players because we have common enemies. Once again this is the nature of UIT who has 3 fronts to consider (red,blue,gray).. we enjoy peace with Serco whilst the arrogance of Itan and TGFT is our common enemy.
In finality.. AAU is here to stay.. I'm going no where.. I have invested in a website for my guild, and I play daily. I pay for my website and for my membership to VO. Some of you might know the name haxmeister if you ever played FPS games from novalogic or even Call of Duty.. you would have known me as HaX-DF- or RiPPeR-DF-.. and those clans were among the more known in their respective games. If you know me from there.. then you know what time it is, and you know that AAU is legit..
TGFT is NOT A PEACEFUL GUILD, they have combatant players who do not honor national space. They also have boasted about having spies in all the major guilds, including mine. Even now they refuse to engage in the roleplay already created by game developers, but would rather issue personal attacks on me for a guild that DOES.
Atana Slick.. aka Westacular came to help me start AAU with his new alt. Everything he did was in alignment with my own ideas about what AAU should be. Removing him from my guild has saddened me greatly, I considered him to be my friend in the game. There are some who will not allow others to seperate alts. It was Savet that talked to me and suggested that Atana was not healthy for AAU or for FAMY either and that it may be best if he was removed. After a long discussion with Atana Slick he was removed from the guild and to that end he went on a violent rampage in UIT space killing many innocent UIT nationals in the process.
How will TGFT answer for using their spies to destroy everything good in the verse? You can know now that TGFT will always be an enemy of AAU. For your atrocities against me personally, your atrocities against my guild, and your refusal to participate in the roleplay of the game in general.
As a UIT nationalist I know that the UIT is swollen with vagabonds and pirates .. traders and miners.. explorers and innovators. My enemies often wear the same colors as I do and yet help the destructive ones. This is the nature of UIT though, and I have set out to distinguish between my enemies knowing sometimes they will be UIT nationals. I have indeed made friendship with FAMY and through this they have allowed my members unparalleled access to gray space. A luxury no other guild enjoys except AAU. I have also had a good relationship with BR1 and RED.. although there have not been any formal talks to define how we would interact. I understand they often hold their fire on AAU players because we have common enemies. Once again this is the nature of UIT who has 3 fronts to consider (red,blue,gray).. we enjoy peace with Serco whilst the arrogance of Itan and TGFT is our common enemy.
In finality.. AAU is here to stay.. I'm going no where.. I have invested in a website for my guild, and I play daily. I pay for my website and for my membership to VO. Some of you might know the name haxmeister if you ever played FPS games from novalogic or even Call of Duty.. you would have known me as HaX-DF- or RiPPeR-DF-.. and those clans were among the more known in their respective games. If you know me from there.. then you know what time it is, and you know that AAU is legit..
^^ hahah, sounds like TGFT has everything under control. So much for those 'negotiations' huh ecka?
"There are some who will not allow others to separate alts"
Oh. Get Real.
Honestly, Westacular is the worst alt separator in the history of Vendetta Online, a title previously held by Azurea. Nobody has to allow you to separate your alts. You simply do it and if you do it properly then nobody could possibly know that it is you. They could have their opinions and suspicions but that doesn't make it correct. When you have the player openly admitting he is an alt that's just ridiculous. You should have been smarter than to bring Westacular on board for this project, that was a rookie mistake on your part. Live and learn!
"There are some who will not allow others to separate alts"
Oh. Get Real.
Honestly, Westacular is the worst alt separator in the history of Vendetta Online, a title previously held by Azurea. Nobody has to allow you to separate your alts. You simply do it and if you do it properly then nobody could possibly know that it is you. They could have their opinions and suspicions but that doesn't make it correct. When you have the player openly admitting he is an alt that's just ridiculous. You should have been smarter than to bring Westacular on board for this project, that was a rookie mistake on your part. Live and learn!
AAU is like..OK..picture this..all of earths governments (USA.Russia.N.Korea.Britain.etc etc) are laid out in the VO universe..now AAU is like Canada trying to tax N Korea 50 creeds to pass thru...bwahahaha
oh bad word bad word badword. i just said badwords lock thread cause i dont like thread. so i use badword . lock please
I see that now TheRedSpy, that it was a mistake.. that his reputation has a lot of dynamics including alt seperation problems. However that is the past, because I made it the past. Not surprising though that TGFT members can't see that this is a sign of who AAU really is.. not some griefer guild.. but a nationalist guild. Then again .. TGFT doesn't cope to well with people being onto their BS.
FACT:
TGFT has players that are combatants and do not fly trade class ships.
FACT:
TGFT fires FIRST on anyone who they don't like.. callling them pirates and swearing they are on some "pirate list" that (get this) THEY CREATED.
FACT:
TGFT charges fees to their players
FACT:
TGFT tries to acheive some sort of universal nuetral status (which they can't because they like to fight). The purpose of this is so they can move HUGE trades through other national space. Effectively tanking prices at stations of the recieving nation. If your a nationalist.. that should make you MAD!
FACT:
TGFT claims to have spies in every major guild (this is not peaceful behaviour).
FACT:
TGFT uses combat to attempt to gain access to conquerable stations instead of diplomacy (not peaceful behavior).
FACT:
TGFT members like Kbireta and TraderVyx (TGFT combatants) have made a hobby out of bashing AAU when we try to recruit new players (we don't interfere with their recruitment ... at least not by bashing their guild, but rather telling about our own). This activity does not reflect the good behaviour mandate in their guild charter, however they will not discipline their members (like I have disciplined mine)
FACT:
TGFT tried to make an alliance with me after Atana Slick was removed from the guild. Showing that in fact they don't consider AAU to be pirates at all, rather they just can't handle the fact that we don't like them.
FACT:
I (Munny) used to be in FAMY... get over it! Realistically the only person I ever fired on first was TraderVyx while he was AFK mining in gray space. If TraderVyx is bothered by that there is nothing I can do about it, but you know I was in FAMY at the time.. and selling warranties WAS MY JOB.
FACT:
TGFT has alts in my guild, as does VPR.
FACT:
FreeRoam failed... sorry I heard a lot of good things about the guild, would like to meet them sometime, but they failed. If I do the same thing I will fail also.
FACT:
I honestly wouldn't like kbireta even if he wasn't TGFT in the first place (sorry kiddo)
^^ chew them apples
FACT:
TGFT has players that are combatants and do not fly trade class ships.
FACT:
TGFT fires FIRST on anyone who they don't like.. callling them pirates and swearing they are on some "pirate list" that (get this) THEY CREATED.
FACT:
TGFT charges fees to their players
FACT:
TGFT tries to acheive some sort of universal nuetral status (which they can't because they like to fight). The purpose of this is so they can move HUGE trades through other national space. Effectively tanking prices at stations of the recieving nation. If your a nationalist.. that should make you MAD!
FACT:
TGFT claims to have spies in every major guild (this is not peaceful behaviour).
FACT:
TGFT uses combat to attempt to gain access to conquerable stations instead of diplomacy (not peaceful behavior).
FACT:
TGFT members like Kbireta and TraderVyx (TGFT combatants) have made a hobby out of bashing AAU when we try to recruit new players (we don't interfere with their recruitment ... at least not by bashing their guild, but rather telling about our own). This activity does not reflect the good behaviour mandate in their guild charter, however they will not discipline their members (like I have disciplined mine)
FACT:
TGFT tried to make an alliance with me after Atana Slick was removed from the guild. Showing that in fact they don't consider AAU to be pirates at all, rather they just can't handle the fact that we don't like them.
FACT:
I (Munny) used to be in FAMY... get over it! Realistically the only person I ever fired on first was TraderVyx while he was AFK mining in gray space. If TraderVyx is bothered by that there is nothing I can do about it, but you know I was in FAMY at the time.. and selling warranties WAS MY JOB.
FACT:
TGFT has alts in my guild, as does VPR.
FACT:
FreeRoam failed... sorry I heard a lot of good things about the guild, would like to meet them sometime, but they failed. If I do the same thing I will fail also.
FACT:
I honestly wouldn't like kbireta even if he wasn't TGFT in the first place (sorry kiddo)
^^ chew them apples
DE-A... eat a box of cancer.
AAU... I look forward to destroying our mutual enemies.
AAU... I look forward to destroying our mutual enemies.
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