ROUS is a pirate guild that was established over the weekend. I completely fail to see your point. But in any case I think we have gotten carried away.

Some pirates are grey but not all who consider themselves grey are pirates. The goal is to make it as clear as possible who is fighting for what team without inconveniencing and hamstringing ourselves. Make it well understood that members of ROUS may be fighting for grey and you have yourself a good compromise.

There hasn't been overwhelming support for either side of the issue so don't get all hasty to tell me to declare what is a 'community accepted rule.'

What do you mean by this:
You can participate all you want but if you're unwilling to follow the criteria then there's no reward for you

I can fight for grey if I will forgo the prize? Seems a mite inconsistent. But then again, making a fuss over all this while still allowing native KOS pilots to fight for whichever team they wish doesn't make any sense either.

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And you still haven't made it clear in the OP that I have UIT POS. Please fix that.

jeez, people get so pissy in this game. If anyone plays in grey the most its Maalik.

Dont see what the problem is...

What about Serco players who want to fight for the Itani or UIT nations? Or the Itani who want to fight for Serco or UIT nations? Or the UIT who want to fight for Serco or Itani nations??

Just rename the event to "team deathmatch", problem solved.

Well, Pointy, if you think of it on the RP side, all grey would be pirates, as leaving the nation that tutored you and took care of you would be seen as treachery, and they wouldn't take ye in after that ;)

Shadoen: Please lets not go there. I don't even like NAP with the serco let alone have one of those scum :) on our team.

I think you guys are arguing about nothing. If you want to be on the grey team just be native KOS and/or be in a pirate guild. That has been the rule for as long as i been doing NW whats the problem now?

Heh, Fausty, but in terms of RP, what could be more UIT-esque than fighting for the team they think will win. Though, given my propensity to shoot at things I shouldn't, it probably *is* only a matter of time before they cut me off... :(

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And Surb, you still haven't made it clear in the OP that I have UIT POS. Please fix that.

I see no reason to do so as giving you preferential treatment to having your standing posted for reasons to me unknown and if I did I would be obligated to do so for everyone else and I'm not going to post standings for your pleasure.

If you're referring to the last two NWs that you have joined Gray Team, I'll remind you that the rules were questioned and under debate so I suspended that rule to get NW on as you would inevitably complain about it delaying the event.

I also remember a post on the NW back in March that stated why teams were still held to certain requirements despite the FF restrictions being lifted.

ROUS is a pirate guild so no preferential treatment is necessary.

And if you aren't going to list correct information in your report then you should probably delete this: "Notify me of any mistakes with names, missing players, or wrong tidbits."

I think maybe you don't like me or something and are having a hard time being impartial.

And ROUS has changed its policy to allow for any sort of piratical behavior on Sundays around 2000 GMT.

This statement says to me, "I'll just call it a pirate guild between this and this time to attempt to negate rule changes not in my favor."

I think I'm just allergic to bullshit.

Surb, I think he was referring to the specific tenet of his guild: ROUS pirates in Behemoths. Or trade ships more generally, maybe. They are definitely a pirate guild, he was just changing the policy to allow for participation in a ship that won't go boom quite so quickly.

EDIT: Oh, and I think the only reason he wants his UIT standing listed in the OP is because he is listed under the grey team, where it specifically states that the members are all native KOS/Hated. It might be debatable what that specific line means (I think it was probably intended more along the lines of the prior "Native KOS will be strictly enforced from now on" or whatever), but he seems to construe it as saying that all the players listed below were native KOS/Hated, which is untrue (both Maalik and Fusion have good native standing).

"the rules were questioned and under debate so I suspended that rule to get NW on"

I see no point in editing for that technicality.

"They are definitely a pirate guild,"

Sorry about that, I was under the impression that Zak was making fun of ROUS in some fashion and then reading Pointsman's post about a policy change to adopt piracy at a time around NW was just to mock any ruling. If they're a genuine pirate guild regardless of what ship they fly in or native standing, I can accept that, just wish it was made obvious what the guild really was besides a mockery.

You could edit it because if there is one thing we who participate in the NW wont stand for, it is confusion!

Just fix it already. Even if you don't see the point do it out of respect for others.

It's noted for the next NW, don't worry your pretty little head over it.

You cannot be grey and have good standing with your native nation. It negates the whole concept!

It's noted for the next NW, don't worry your pretty little head over it.

Honestly, I don't see why we let you host this thing. Hosts are supposed to be gracious, accommodating, and impartial. Seems like you just get off on lording power over other people.

Please fix the inaccuracies in your original post.

Grey = Unaligned = no strong allegiance to any one thing. Native KOS has nothing to do with it.

Now you're just twisting the meaning to your own convinience ;P

If what you say is true, then its also true that a Serco player with POS Serco standing could also have allegiance towards the Itani nation and fight for them in the NW. Same with all other scenarios.

I say, just rename the event. No point in calling it "Nation War" if the teams are just going to be mixed >_>

"Heh, Fausty, but in terms of RP, what could be more UIT-esque than fighting for the team they think will win."

Lies! If we don't fight for our Nation, then we would never earn any more money!

Erm, just to clear something up I had tanked my itani standing right before nationwar.