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"Itani Strike Cmdr Verdandi: "Permission denied, we're not after transports."
Itani Escort Fighter #1: "Uh, sir, what are we after?"
Itani Strike Cmdr Verdandi: "Shut up and take orders, it's not nice to attack transports or un-trained pilots." "
I just had to reply immediately.
You see, I AM Viriana Vardalar, also known as Verdandi. And first, I would never talk like that. Second, if you just downed 3 30k+ score players, you LIKELY have damage. Third, the transports are likely already fleeing and calling for reinforcements. Fourth, it ISN'T nice to attack players who are just learning how to play. And I find it rather funny that you wouldn't know that I am Verdandi by now, seeing as it is rather widely known...
EDIT: Fifth, I would have told the pilot exactly what he could or could not have shot in this situation. NOT told him (or her) to shut up.
Itani Escort Fighter #1: "Uh, sir, what are we after?"
Itani Strike Cmdr Verdandi: "Shut up and take orders, it's not nice to attack transports or un-trained pilots." "
I just had to reply immediately.
You see, I AM Viriana Vardalar, also known as Verdandi. And first, I would never talk like that. Second, if you just downed 3 30k+ score players, you LIKELY have damage. Third, the transports are likely already fleeing and calling for reinforcements. Fourth, it ISN'T nice to attack players who are just learning how to play. And I find it rather funny that you wouldn't know that I am Verdandi by now, seeing as it is rather widely known...
EDIT: Fifth, I would have told the pilot exactly what he could or could not have shot in this situation. NOT told him (or her) to shut up.
I wasn't trying to demean you; you unfortunately, were serving as my "useful idiot," since you were the one in game who was pompously trying to order Scuba Steve and I around.
"Fourth, it ISN'T nice to attack players who are just learning how to play."
Last time I checked, nation sectors are officially called "newbie sectors" (By the devs). If you're learning to play, stay there. You can trade 6-3, 4-1, 12-2 why you learn. You can attack 75/150 (and in 12's case) 250 bots there. Why do you need to be somewhere else?
Specifics aside (dmg, ammo), if a group (or even a few) Itani see a couple of Neutral transports, what sort of pilot would leave them alone? It'd have been a great opportunity to cause the Neutral nation some hurt by costing them 2 ships and probably 30+ widgets.
My point still stands, you overplay national indentity to the point of setting up governments, but underplay it then by only attacking the "skilled" players. Take it from the devs, newbies, stay in your home sectors if you don't want to be attacked!
"Fourth, it ISN'T nice to attack players who are just learning how to play."
Last time I checked, nation sectors are officially called "newbie sectors" (By the devs). If you're learning to play, stay there. You can trade 6-3, 4-1, 12-2 why you learn. You can attack 75/150 (and in 12's case) 250 bots there. Why do you need to be somewhere else?
Specifics aside (dmg, ammo), if a group (or even a few) Itani see a couple of Neutral transports, what sort of pilot would leave them alone? It'd have been a great opportunity to cause the Neutral nation some hurt by costing them 2 ships and probably 30+ widgets.
My point still stands, you overplay national indentity to the point of setting up governments, but underplay it then by only attacking the "skilled" players. Take it from the devs, newbies, stay in your home sectors if you don't want to be attacked!
I doubt a player would stick around very long if they were stuck in a single (nation sector doesn't count) sector...
sir campo, I wonder what you would have done if people would have killed you repeatedly during your settling time.
Think about it most players don't even read manuals, and they wanna get some serious bucks fast, the way to do that is doing a couple of those traderoutes, but then you come in and make their life 1 big hell.
Do you like trading ?? Would you like to do traderuns over and over again because some punk who thinks that he is an ace "exclamation mark on thinks" and therefore can shoot anybody he feels like to shoot. If people aren't hostile towards you , then you don't shoot them, it is called being curtious. But if you really feel like doing things like that, just go right ahead, we will see how long you will be able to do that. Cause you're going to the same side as Icarus and Leathal are.
And why do you think I said , who thinks he is an ace, I played longer, I could kill you over and over again, and still I didn't consider myself being an ace, I didn't even consider myself being a vet or experienced, I just thought of myself to be a very lucky newbie who was able to shoot furby ;) , silicon "very lucky :D" and some of the other better players.
But at least I knew that this is only momentarilly and therefore the best way to have fun is to shoot each other when they both want to be shot, so you wouldn't be pestered out of the game.
Cause mark my words, that will happen to you if you continue on this path :(
cheers
Think about it most players don't even read manuals, and they wanna get some serious bucks fast, the way to do that is doing a couple of those traderoutes, but then you come in and make their life 1 big hell.
Do you like trading ?? Would you like to do traderuns over and over again because some punk who thinks that he is an ace "exclamation mark on thinks" and therefore can shoot anybody he feels like to shoot. If people aren't hostile towards you , then you don't shoot them, it is called being curtious. But if you really feel like doing things like that, just go right ahead, we will see how long you will be able to do that. Cause you're going to the same side as Icarus and Leathal are.
And why do you think I said , who thinks he is an ace, I played longer, I could kill you over and over again, and still I didn't consider myself being an ace, I didn't even consider myself being a vet or experienced, I just thought of myself to be a very lucky newbie who was able to shoot furby ;) , silicon "very lucky :D" and some of the other better players.
But at least I knew that this is only momentarilly and therefore the best way to have fun is to shoot each other when they both want to be shot, so you wouldn't be pestered out of the game.
Cause mark my words, that will happen to you if you continue on this path :(
cheers
here's a reason to be out of 12, 6, or 4 as a n00b. Exploring. That is a major part of the game. Hell, it's a part the game is designed around. (ie, searching for hidden sectors, etc) What good is a game if you can't explore?
Either the n00b sectors should be on teh other side of the home sectors and only open to members of that nation, or they shouldn't be there at all. the way they are now serves no useful purpose as they are right in the way of cappers.
Either the n00b sectors should be on teh other side of the home sectors and only open to members of that nation, or they shouldn't be there at all. the way they are now serves no useful purpose as they are right in the way of cappers.
"the way they are now serves no useful purpose as they are right in the way of cappers."
I always considered that part of thier current purpose, though of course in the long run the concept of the 'flag cap' is going away entirely.
I always considered that part of thier current purpose, though of course in the long run the concept of the 'flag cap' is going away entirely.
Actually Renegade, in 3.1 SirCamps aka DS4 DID have that problem. I hunted him down a LOT. He was my "plush play toy" as I used to put it. SOOO... 3.2 comes around and HE decides that HE can go kill newbs... eventually, I HOPE that he'll probably see as I did that 3.2 was a new start (and for me it basically has been) and that newb killing IN GENERAL is bad.
And again, I'll point out that DS4 HAS gone into 6 and SPECIFICALLY hunted gold newbs before.
And again, I'll point out that DS4 HAS gone into 6 and SPECIFICALLY hunted gold newbs before.
"That's right, they wouldn't. But what's a couple hours to build up some overhead and combat skills? Don't demand you have the right to be in the galaxy and at the same time say others don't have a right to attack."
How would you like to spend your first few hours doing nothing but trading IN A SINGLE SECTOR and botting (probably 75 bots) IN A SINGLE SECTOR? I sure as hell wouldn't.
How would you like to spend your first few hours doing nothing but trading IN A SINGLE SECTOR and botting (probably 75 bots) IN A SINGLE SECTOR? I sure as hell wouldn't.
me wonders why I was never the bitch of Furry
/me feels left out :D
but in fact you are slightly responsible for him becomming a newbiekiller, if you didn't have done that, then he wouldn't have had the inclination to become 1 with the dark force :D.
Like you should know:
--newbiekilling
---> newbie does the same to others, just to feel better about his fate
OR
---> newbie starts defending everyone who is the victim of it.
I generally hope that the newbies who do get it become the 2nd incarnation but there are some who become the first "unfortunately :("
cheers
/me feels left out :D
but in fact you are slightly responsible for him becomming a newbiekiller, if you didn't have done that, then he wouldn't have had the inclination to become 1 with the dark force :D.
Like you should know:
--newbiekilling
---> newbie does the same to others, just to feel better about his fate
OR
---> newbie starts defending everyone who is the victim of it.
I generally hope that the newbies who do get it become the 2nd incarnation but there are some who become the first "unfortunately :("
cheers
/me walks away from the smell of something about to ignite.
"How would you like to spend your first few hours doing nothing but trading IN A SINGLE SECTOR and botting (probably 75 bots) IN A SINGLE SECTOR? I sure as hell wouldn't."
I spent my first few days (couple hours at a time) in sector 4 huting 40 bots, because I wanted to become familiar with the controls before facing fire from real people. I actually spent my first hour or so flying around the ice crystals in 1. My trading route was the highly unprofitable but very safe 4-1-4.
I used to play alot on btech MMORPG's, and in those it would take a newbie several days to several weeks (depending on the dedication they showed to learning and the attitude they gave thier superior officers) before they'd earn the right to get in a mech, much less go into combat with the rest of the unit.
I'm certainly not suggesting that we have the sort of rigidly enforced basic training of House Kurita, the 21CL, ELH, and so forth had, but I don't think it is unreasonable to have a section of the galaxy that's safe and boring and has some introductory 'hello world' type missions. And in any event, I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that all players from ace to n00b are ultimately responcible for their own safety. Which isn't to suggest that I go around seeking out n00bs to kill, but I don't have a personal problem with anyone that chooses to.
I spent my first few days (couple hours at a time) in sector 4 huting 40 bots, because I wanted to become familiar with the controls before facing fire from real people. I actually spent my first hour or so flying around the ice crystals in 1. My trading route was the highly unprofitable but very safe 4-1-4.
I used to play alot on btech MMORPG's, and in those it would take a newbie several days to several weeks (depending on the dedication they showed to learning and the attitude they gave thier superior officers) before they'd earn the right to get in a mech, much less go into combat with the rest of the unit.
I'm certainly not suggesting that we have the sort of rigidly enforced basic training of House Kurita, the 21CL, ELH, and so forth had, but I don't think it is unreasonable to have a section of the galaxy that's safe and boring and has some introductory 'hello world' type missions. And in any event, I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that all players from ace to n00b are ultimately responcible for their own safety. Which isn't to suggest that I go around seeking out n00bs to kill, but I don't have a personal problem with anyone that chooses to.
Exactly, thank you Celebrim.
My point is, if you're gonna cause me and mine harm, I'll do the same to you. Yesterday, a gold player killed me (his name is Marcuse). I asked him why he did so (I was in a bus and did not fire), he claimed "you're blue, I hate blue." "Oh, you're one of those." Now, what would a normal person do in that situation? Go kill some golds, because "they're gold." Fortunately for Marcuse, I was getting off, I just had to log off across the galaxy and not in 7.
And yes, Fur/Rolan, I well your little escapade, and considering other gold took part (namely Blaster and Maso) in the little blockade of sec7 in 3.1, that is the main fire that fuels my emnity with Gold. You'll just have to learn I'm hostile and keep your transports and untrained pilots away.
My point is, if you're gonna cause me and mine harm, I'll do the same to you. Yesterday, a gold player killed me (his name is Marcuse). I asked him why he did so (I was in a bus and did not fire), he claimed "you're blue, I hate blue." "Oh, you're one of those." Now, what would a normal person do in that situation? Go kill some golds, because "they're gold." Fortunately for Marcuse, I was getting off, I just had to log off across the galaxy and not in 7.
And yes, Fur/Rolan, I well your little escapade, and considering other gold took part (namely Blaster and Maso) in the little blockade of sec7 in 3.1, that is the main fire that fuels my emnity with Gold. You'll just have to learn I'm hostile and keep your transports and untrained pilots away.
No problem DS4. We'll just add you to the same list as Phoenix, and Mistwraith. IE you get hunted down and driven to log off every time you are seen. You'll note that Icarus isn't on that list. Why you may ask? Cause he's honorable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, DS4 you want to go after ME, fine... do it. You want to go after other vets, FINE, do it. We can recover easily. But don't go after a 0 score bus.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, DS4 you want to go after ME, fine... do it. You want to go after other vets, FINE, do it. We can recover easily. But don't go after a 0 score bus.
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Yesterday, a gold player killed me (his name is Marcuse). I asked him why he did so (I was in a bus and did not fire), he claimed "you're blue, I hate blue." "Oh, you're one of those." Now, what would a normal person do in that situation? Go kill some golds, because "they're gold."
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On this topic, the thing that I would have done is this:
If marcuse said that to me, I would have killed him over and over again, or at least died trying. I have done that multiple times already, I really don't give a thing about dying. But where I do give a thing about is when newbies get hit because of it. Me thinks about Leathal, he killed newbies over and over again, and yes at first I got killed over and over because I didn't stand a chance against his suicidal habits. But on 1 day I was able to kill him on every move, and he didn't like that, I even let him log off. So what I meant with this, don't attack newbies they will turn themselve against you "at least" and will make it playing for the oposite color fairly difficult "just think about you". But like always wat goes around comes around, you will once meet your own nemesis and then get regrets that you acted lke that.
So please DS4 stop acting like that, get some honor in your veins and if you really have a vendetta "mark my words", then keep the vendetta on the person, not on an entire nation. It isn't the acts of a couple of mongrols"sorry for my words" that represent the acts of an entire nation.
So please, if you really want to take revenge, take revenge on the vets that hurted you, and not on the newbs.
Because if you do, you will find myself as one of your adversaries, even if you are a fellow Itani dude :D.
PS: is that marcuse dude good ?? Because like everyone knows score doesn't tell anything.
PPS: furry, could you please let that marcuse guy refrain from attacking blue newbs, please , pretty please with sugary icing on top :D.
cheers
Yesterday, a gold player killed me (his name is Marcuse). I asked him why he did so (I was in a bus and did not fire), he claimed "you're blue, I hate blue." "Oh, you're one of those." Now, what would a normal person do in that situation? Go kill some golds, because "they're gold."
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On this topic, the thing that I would have done is this:
If marcuse said that to me, I would have killed him over and over again, or at least died trying. I have done that multiple times already, I really don't give a thing about dying. But where I do give a thing about is when newbies get hit because of it. Me thinks about Leathal, he killed newbies over and over again, and yes at first I got killed over and over because I didn't stand a chance against his suicidal habits. But on 1 day I was able to kill him on every move, and he didn't like that, I even let him log off. So what I meant with this, don't attack newbies they will turn themselve against you "at least" and will make it playing for the oposite color fairly difficult "just think about you". But like always wat goes around comes around, you will once meet your own nemesis and then get regrets that you acted lke that.
So please DS4 stop acting like that, get some honor in your veins and if you really have a vendetta "mark my words", then keep the vendetta on the person, not on an entire nation. It isn't the acts of a couple of mongrols"sorry for my words" that represent the acts of an entire nation.
So please, if you really want to take revenge, take revenge on the vets that hurted you, and not on the newbs.
Because if you do, you will find myself as one of your adversaries, even if you are a fellow Itani dude :D.
PS: is that marcuse dude good ?? Because like everyone knows score doesn't tell anything.
PPS: furry, could you please let that marcuse guy refrain from attacking blue newbs, please , pretty please with sugary icing on top :D.
cheers
Renegade, I'll do my best... I'll point out that I did start in 3.1 with "No newb killing". Until I felt that there was no point in "No newb killing" as I was always being attacked by newbs and then being accused of being a newb killer... at that point... I finally said "screw it... I'll SHOW what a newb killer is...".
About marcuse, he has been doing the same to the serco, and just about any player on the game. "I just destroyed two ugly red ships" was the comment last I saw him online.
That doesnt matter much, except to fuel some more disliking against him, now what really does cause annoyment is when Gold team is honourable and friendly, and decide that its unpolite to hunt marcuse &co. for being shitheads.
The famous loyality to the team without ever asking "what did he do to piss off most of the players online at that moment?"
That doesnt matter much, except to fuel some more disliking against him, now what really does cause annoyment is when Gold team is honourable and friendly, and decide that its unpolite to hunt marcuse &co. for being shitheads.
The famous loyality to the team without ever asking "what did he do to piss off most of the players online at that moment?"
Has he.. hmm... well, there are certain golds I just won't support. They KNOW who they are (oh wait, they've been been banned SOOO...)
Guys I would like to state that we are dealing, for the most part, in the hypothetical here. I do NOT go around looking for untrained pilots to kill, just to kill. They offer no resistance and will likely, because of their lame combat skills, readily scream out for help. However, any ace that screams out for help ain't such an ace.
(Big "but") HOWEVER, an ace's ability to protect his teammates is a valuable factor. If someone's mouthing off, I'll go kill a couple of teammates (not him, he's usually in a station) and tell him to come deal with me. That's usually enough to get his pride/ego up enough to make a rash decision. 90% of the time I will give the untrained pilots a good amount of cash (10k to 50k) for their trouble.
"No problem DS4. We'll just add you to the same list as Phoenix, and Mistwraith. IE you get hunted down and driven to log off every time you are seen. You'll note that Icarus isn't on that list. Why you may ask? Cause he's honorable."
Fur, you're on that list and you know it. I do not sit and attack everyone who comes into a sector. I definitely(!) do not keep attacking an untrained pilot after they ask to me to stop. I assume that once we see an "official" government with "official" missions (IE go disrupt supplies, attack an outpost), killing pilots (trained or untrained) of another nation will be more accepted.
(Big "but") HOWEVER, an ace's ability to protect his teammates is a valuable factor. If someone's mouthing off, I'll go kill a couple of teammates (not him, he's usually in a station) and tell him to come deal with me. That's usually enough to get his pride/ego up enough to make a rash decision. 90% of the time I will give the untrained pilots a good amount of cash (10k to 50k) for their trouble.
"No problem DS4. We'll just add you to the same list as Phoenix, and Mistwraith. IE you get hunted down and driven to log off every time you are seen. You'll note that Icarus isn't on that list. Why you may ask? Cause he's honorable."
Fur, you're on that list and you know it. I do not sit and attack everyone who comes into a sector. I definitely(!) do not keep attacking an untrained pilot after they ask to me to stop. I assume that once we see an "official" government with "official" missions (IE go disrupt supplies, attack an outpost), killing pilots (trained or untrained) of another nation will be more accepted.
"Fur, you're on that list and you know it."
Heheh I AM??? LMAO... Uh huh... :D Ok.. LOL...
/me pets SirCamps... there there, it'll be OK!
(Sorry to burst your bubble there DS4 but I've YET to have 5+ people hunting me at one time till I logged off. Yet to have this happen EVERY time I log in.)
Heheh I AM??? LMAO... Uh huh... :D Ok.. LOL...
/me pets SirCamps... there there, it'll be OK!
(Sorry to burst your bubble there DS4 but I've YET to have 5+ people hunting me at one time till I logged off. Yet to have this happen EVERY time I log in.)
Maybe this board needs a flame forum also, saddly.