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and a 100Megabyte connection is likely a bit out of thier price range. 100mbit is plenty fast for most applications, vendetta runs pretty good on dialup, which means 5k/sec or so, multiple that by 100, the high end of average players on, and youve got 500k/sec, still well within a 100mbit line.
If they get the number of paying players that exceeds the current 100mbit in my estimation at least, all they would have to do is increase the speed, and then they would have more than the cash they need... ...but until then there is plenty room for a lot more
Who cares. It works. Let devs do their thang. If it stops workin then question them.
The said part is, in europe(sweden to be specific)they have 10Mbit connections running to thier homes. They have an ethernet port in the wall like we have phone lines. It's fiber optic. They have up to 500Mbits there for only 150USD a month.(or maybe that was japan)
150 USD/month?
Straight across from here (this building isn't connected) they offer 100Mbit into the wall for ~86 USD/month.
.... Yes. A slight hint of jealousy, since I'm stuck without any viable connections. :-/
Straight across from here (this building isn't connected) they offer 100Mbit into the wall for ~86 USD/month.
.... Yes. A slight hint of jealousy, since I'm stuck without any viable connections. :-/
10 or 100 mbits/second is normal speed for ethernet cables (total through put, up and down). 1 gbit/sec is available for ethernet now (MIT has one building wired with 1 gbit/sec ethernet drops). The most expensive/new cable in the US is around 4-5mbits/sec download, and jack squat upload. The download how ever is generally shared with a large group of subscribers in your area. DSL theoretically maxes out at around 8.4mbits/sec download, I think it's somewhere around 6mbits/sec for the most expensive (this would be geared towards businesses not for personal use).
/ping now allows you to see how many bits per second vendetta is using. The most I've seen is under 200 bps (far less than the 300 kbps my connection maxes out at). Assuming all users use 200 bps up and 200 bps down at the same time then Vendetta's current bandwidth could support 2621 users at one time.
/ping now allows you to see how many bits per second vendetta is using. The most I've seen is under 200 bps (far less than the 300 kbps my connection maxes out at). Assuming all users use 200 bps up and 200 bps down at the same time then Vendetta's current bandwidth could support 2621 users at one time.
Yup, seems to be all good. Cogent connection looks pretty decent thus far.- incarnate
I got a problem with cogents router to my area. Check the bug submitions for details.
I got a problem with cogents router to my area. Check the bug submitions for details.
100megabits of real tier-1 transit bandwidth is quite a lot. internet usage is very bursty for most services. As an idea of scale, a popular website like Penny Arcade probably peaks at around 10-15mbits of usage. There are certain high-bandwidth services (streaming lots of video or high-bitrate audio without multicast) that will use up lots of bandwidth very quickly, but our game isn't like that at all, and is very low impact as things go. comparing the amount of server pipe to how much one can theoretically move over a cablemodem is not a very useful metric.
The issue in all top-tier bandwidth is not about how much you have, necessarily, but how "good" it is. Which means, how much peering they have (connections to other networks) and where they're connected, their coast-to-coast latency, etc. This is more important to us, especially. The "best" bandwidth, by this scale, is usually very expensive. Level3 Communications is considered one of the best, right now, and they run about $225 per megabit, per month (with some small price breaks as you increase in 10meg increments). And even with the bulk prices I think it still ends up in the $200/meg range. So, rough figuring, that's about $20,000 per month for 100mbit of top-tier provider service.
On just a technical-discussion level: We have a 100mbit ethernet connection from our switch to our provider's switch (yes, it's full duplex). There are 8bits in a byte, so that works out to 12.5megabytes/s of theoretical bandwidth. But that's not actually real-world, because 100mbit ethernet doesn't actually *do* 100mbits most of the time, nor does GigE (Gigabit ethernet) actually do a full gig (usually like 600mbits or so, sometimes considerably less). Even aside from wirespeed capabilities (or lack thereof), you run into other limitations from packet overhead, network design and other factors. There is also 10gig (10 gigabit/s) which is used mostly for high-traffic aggregate connections between big switches. I think only Extreme and a few other manufacturers even have made products to use the 10gig standard.
johnhawl: we're looking into it.
The issue in all top-tier bandwidth is not about how much you have, necessarily, but how "good" it is. Which means, how much peering they have (connections to other networks) and where they're connected, their coast-to-coast latency, etc. This is more important to us, especially. The "best" bandwidth, by this scale, is usually very expensive. Level3 Communications is considered one of the best, right now, and they run about $225 per megabit, per month (with some small price breaks as you increase in 10meg increments). And even with the bulk prices I think it still ends up in the $200/meg range. So, rough figuring, that's about $20,000 per month for 100mbit of top-tier provider service.
On just a technical-discussion level: We have a 100mbit ethernet connection from our switch to our provider's switch (yes, it's full duplex). There are 8bits in a byte, so that works out to 12.5megabytes/s of theoretical bandwidth. But that's not actually real-world, because 100mbit ethernet doesn't actually *do* 100mbits most of the time, nor does GigE (Gigabit ethernet) actually do a full gig (usually like 600mbits or so, sometimes considerably less). Even aside from wirespeed capabilities (or lack thereof), you run into other limitations from packet overhead, network design and other factors. There is also 10gig (10 gigabit/s) which is used mostly for high-traffic aggregate connections between big switches. I think only Extreme and a few other manufacturers even have made products to use the 10gig standard.
johnhawl: we're looking into it.