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Type-killing only bothers me when bots do it. Seriously, in the heat of botting, sometimes my pitch finger wanders from R to T and my ship is left unable to maneuver just long enough for a bot or two to blast me to death before I can even send that last fateful message of "tttttttttttttrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" to anyone.
In gray space its ok to kill and be killed in any way possible. It's a dangerous place and anything goes.
But I still think its not honorable to shoot an immobile and non reacting target. DON'T BE PROUD, walk away and be quiet you have nothing to brag about, because it was too easy.
M. Duncan
But I still think its not honorable to shoot an immobile and non reacting target. DON'T BE PROUD, walk away and be quiet you have nothing to brag about, because it was too easy.
M. Duncan
Im not gonna bother to take the time to see if you are typing, if you are and a little red dot appears on your radar, it takes half a second to press escape and then press turbo and continue typing. Do not think I wont kill you just cuz you are typing, for you will quickly end up as debris with that mindset.
it costs nothing to just move further on your path without bothering the other guy...
I just don't understand why you would bother attacking somebody out of the blue... Are you so weak that you are afraid to take on somebody that is active ...
I just don't understand why you would bother attacking somebody out of the blue... Are you so weak that you are afraid to take on somebody that is active ...
No Rene, im not scared to try take on someone who I even perceve as much better than me, but I shoot things, I much prefer the things I shoot at to shoot back, but hey! I also dont brag about typekills/meat kills. Its what I like doing here, and hey! Thats why i payed for vendetta, if I would have wanted to fly around not shooting at anything, i would have made me a nice excel spreadsheet.
Also - Its not an honorable thing to do, but did I say I was honorable?
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Merry X-mas all, and my (obviously not) last words on this subject are...
...Bots at you shoot, why I should not? hmmm....
Also - Its not an honorable thing to do, but did I say I was honorable?
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Merry X-mas all, and my (obviously not) last words on this subject are...
...Bots at you shoot, why I should not? hmmm....
You can fly around and shoot people,
there will be more then enough people that are flying around in this universe, why should you demean yourselve to take the one that is just hovering there... Not to mention that I am sure that there are more then enough people that share your opinion of wanting action (pvp), so bother them...
I understand that it happens, since some people feel mighty because of it or feel it cool to act like an ass (sometimes to counteract being victimized in real life). But still other people payed also but didn't pay to get blasted by you while they were just hanging somewhere while afk-ing due to some IRL businesses taken precedence over game representations.
Not to mention that bots are to stupid to see the difference between somebody fighting back and hanging there still or somebody actively willing to actually harm them and therefore pose a threat on which they should act.
there will be more then enough people that are flying around in this universe, why should you demean yourselve to take the one that is just hovering there... Not to mention that I am sure that there are more then enough people that share your opinion of wanting action (pvp), so bother them...
I understand that it happens, since some people feel mighty because of it or feel it cool to act like an ass (sometimes to counteract being victimized in real life). But still other people payed also but didn't pay to get blasted by you while they were just hanging somewhere while afk-ing due to some IRL businesses taken precedence over game representations.
Not to mention that bots are to stupid to see the difference between somebody fighting back and hanging there still or somebody actively willing to actually harm them and therefore pose a threat on which they should act.
The way I see it, if you get killed while typing in gray space, that's your problem. That's like taking a stroll around the ghetto at night. Whenever I go AFK, or start typing, I do a /turbo+ and THEN leave. If I'm boosting away at full speed, it's unlikely that someone who pops in after I leave will find me and be able to catch me - and the chances of being found get worse the farther away from the sector center I go. Otherwise, I keep a very close watch on my radar screens when I type. I often post partial messages because someone came close before I finished.
My points have always been on this type of thread... ...It happens, and not that I have done it (although in the past i may have)
If I have type killed you, say so here...
...nuff said.
If I have type killed you, say so here...
...nuff said.
If I kill you while you were typing, it does not make me weak, it makes you foolish for ignoring a threat. (And if you havnt realized im a threat by now you will afterwards)
A typekill offers no real need for skill to pull it off. It just needs 1 minute of unattendency of the person behind the targets wheel.
Anyway, if you need to resolve to these unhonourable tactics to get 1 more kill then I consider that to be weak. Not to mention that if you have to resolve to a tactic like this you are not a threat but just show parasitical behaviour since you need to piggybank on something else to actually get something out of it. However if the oponent fights back then it is fair 'and you can be considered to be non weak'.
cheers
Anyway, if you need to resolve to these unhonourable tactics to get 1 more kill then I consider that to be weak. Not to mention that if you have to resolve to a tactic like this you are not a threat but just show parasitical behaviour since you need to piggybank on something else to actually get something out of it. However if the oponent fights back then it is fair 'and you can be considered to be non weak'.
cheers
resolve = resort
piggybank = piggyback
While type killing is neither brave nor honorable, the onus still remains with the typist to get themselves to a safe place before chatting. There is no *I'm typing* indicator and therefore no definitive way to be sure that the pilot is typing. Remember, not everyone monitors 100. And our chatty friend may not even be on 100. There are literally hundreds of channels they might be on and no way to monitor them all. The typist is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
Caveat emptor
piggybank = piggyback
While type killing is neither brave nor honorable, the onus still remains with the typist to get themselves to a safe place before chatting. There is no *I'm typing* indicator and therefore no definitive way to be sure that the pilot is typing. Remember, not everyone monitors 100. And our chatty friend may not even be on 100. There are literally hundreds of channels they might be on and no way to monitor them all. The typist is ultimately responsible for their own safety.
Caveat emptor
actually I think there are 2^31 different channels in the game.
-Caveat scriptor
-Caveat scriptor
Nope.
(2^32)-1 not 2^(32-1)
(2^32)-1 not 2^(32-1)
Ok, as far as typekilling goes... it takes about 20 seconds max, in ANY ship, to get to an empty sector. Or... Barring that... getting out of the way enought to chat. And if you're trying to chat and travel... get something with Infiniturbo.
Bah Renegade, whats next? Not allowed to read the other guys mail and not supposed to target the officers?
I am talking not only about typekilling, but also about being afk due to real life business like picking up the telephone or... When you think that it is not going to take to long like couple of secs, or a minute or so.
And no doubled, your not allowed to read somebodies elses mail, although shooting officers doesn't matter the slightest, they are soldiers anyway.
Besides it is not about any of you, it is about building up a nice community which is fun to be a part of. Since that is what these actions like typekilling, afk killing ruins... And if you can't see that... 'sigh'.
And no doubled, your not allowed to read somebodies elses mail, although shooting officers doesn't matter the slightest, they are soldiers anyway.
Besides it is not about any of you, it is about building up a nice community which is fun to be a part of. Since that is what these actions like typekilling, afk killing ruins... And if you can't see that... 'sigh'.
Renegade:
While i can see your point about not always having time to get out of the way, it is a space combat game. I have to agree that the person who is afk/typing is the one responsible for getting out of danger, and if he/she cant do that and dies, it is not because the person who killed him/her is a bad person.
It is only a game, and the situation you describe is not something that is likely to happen every single day. on the same note however:
everyone who is typing, (which is a player choice, not something that unexpectedly comes up) should get out of the way, or accept the fact that they got killed because they were typing when they should have been flying.
The AFK circumstance is a little different, but if it's happening all the time, maybe you need to consider playing the game in a safer part of space.
While i can see your point about not always having time to get out of the way, it is a space combat game. I have to agree that the person who is afk/typing is the one responsible for getting out of danger, and if he/she cant do that and dies, it is not because the person who killed him/her is a bad person.
It is only a game, and the situation you describe is not something that is likely to happen every single day. on the same note however:
everyone who is typing, (which is a player choice, not something that unexpectedly comes up) should get out of the way, or accept the fact that they got killed because they were typing when they should have been flying.
The AFK circumstance is a little different, but if it's happening all the time, maybe you need to consider playing the game in a safer part of space.
Once more im not stating anything that happened to me, and if it ever happened I just shrugged it off.
I am however talking that the mentality of who cares... is not the mentality of a nice community but the one of a 1337 one. And that is something what I want and always wanted to avoid, since the game is a place where you have fun not where you feel better then another...
That was the only thing I wanted to highlight, nothing more. Just hoping that with setting the example (as I did in the past), and some words I could inspire the great community back that we once had wherein (nearly) everybody that wanted to fight always had some people that they knew that they could attack at any time of the day. That people as soon as they entered a sector stated that they were hostile and that you could prepare for a nice dogfight or run if you were not interested in a fight. That people left other people dispensed in the air not responding alone (sometimes after giving them 1 hit with a blue ion 'comparable with the graviton'). That people actually sticked untill the end of a fight in stead of running as soon as they got hit. Since it is in that way that you actually learn and have fun.
But naturally that is only me... and my opinion.
I was just a bit ticked off at the original posters idea... reason why I posted all this dribble untill now. And as I noticed there aren't many real veterans left, only the ones from the valk/sunflare era... 'sigh'
I am however talking that the mentality of who cares... is not the mentality of a nice community but the one of a 1337 one. And that is something what I want and always wanted to avoid, since the game is a place where you have fun not where you feel better then another...
That was the only thing I wanted to highlight, nothing more. Just hoping that with setting the example (as I did in the past), and some words I could inspire the great community back that we once had wherein (nearly) everybody that wanted to fight always had some people that they knew that they could attack at any time of the day. That people as soon as they entered a sector stated that they were hostile and that you could prepare for a nice dogfight or run if you were not interested in a fight. That people left other people dispensed in the air not responding alone (sometimes after giving them 1 hit with a blue ion 'comparable with the graviton'). That people actually sticked untill the end of a fight in stead of running as soon as they got hit. Since it is in that way that you actually learn and have fun.
But naturally that is only me... and my opinion.
I was just a bit ticked off at the original posters idea... reason why I posted all this dribble untill now. And as I noticed there aren't many real veterans left, only the ones from the valk/sunflare era... 'sigh'
I dont particularly care for being called weak and parasitical just because I'm not gonna let you live because you CHOOSE to go afk or type in a dangerous place. There is ALWAYS the option of logging off if you have business to attend to. If you choose not to log off and just sit there and you get killed, it is YOUR fault.
EDIT: Here comes the flames.
EDIT: Here comes the flames.
I hate this kind of threads.
Two pages of people saying the same thing and being angry about nothing.
Two pages of people saying the same thing and being angry about nothing.