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VSE: Vendetta Stock Exchange
IGCOJ: Inter Galactic Court Of Justice
Ok, first of all; you probably all know about the stock exchange (if you don't, go read this: http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=3537&page=1 .) Now the stock exchange is fun and all.. but I'll do something else soon: the IGCOJ (more information will follow.) So.. who wants to take over the VSE? There'll be a 'voting' on friday to see who'll take over. You can vote if you have stocks, every stock counts as a vote. If you want be a 'canidate' to take over VSE, you must have at least 100 stocks; and you must know how to calculate all the stocks and stuff (quite handy ofcourse). Maybe I'll spice up the java program thingy I wrote, or make a simple spreadsheet to make stuff easier.
Saturday, VSE will be 'given' to whoever won. All those that want it can 'sell' their stocks then at a 'fair price' (the total number of stocks that will be sold then will be noted, sunday that number of stocks will be sold and the money it gives will be shared equally amongst the stocks: all those stocks will give the same amount of money.) Sunday, and maybe monday; VSE will be run by both the 'new' VSE and me to double-check and see all the calculations go correctly and stuff. Then at monday or tuesday the VSE will be completly given to the 'new' VSE and I'm not in control anymore.
I hope you all like the stock market (I sure do), and I hope even more that you'll like the upcomming IGCOJ once it arrives ;)
Btw, if somebody could write a VSE bot that would be cool too ;)
IGCOJ: Inter Galactic Court Of Justice
Ok, first of all; you probably all know about the stock exchange (if you don't, go read this: http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/?action=msgboard&thread=3537&page=1 .) Now the stock exchange is fun and all.. but I'll do something else soon: the IGCOJ (more information will follow.) So.. who wants to take over the VSE? There'll be a 'voting' on friday to see who'll take over. You can vote if you have stocks, every stock counts as a vote. If you want be a 'canidate' to take over VSE, you must have at least 100 stocks; and you must know how to calculate all the stocks and stuff (quite handy ofcourse). Maybe I'll spice up the java program thingy I wrote, or make a simple spreadsheet to make stuff easier.
Saturday, VSE will be 'given' to whoever won. All those that want it can 'sell' their stocks then at a 'fair price' (the total number of stocks that will be sold then will be noted, sunday that number of stocks will be sold and the money it gives will be shared equally amongst the stocks: all those stocks will give the same amount of money.) Sunday, and maybe monday; VSE will be run by both the 'new' VSE and me to double-check and see all the calculations go correctly and stuff. Then at monday or tuesday the VSE will be completly given to the 'new' VSE and I'm not in control anymore.
I hope you all like the stock market (I sure do), and I hope even more that you'll like the upcomming IGCOJ once it arrives ;)
Btw, if somebody could write a VSE bot that would be cool too ;)
I believe Intergalactic is one word. ISE. Which sounds very similar to ICE. Expect Starfreeze's lawyers to be on your ass in twenty-four hours!
Hmm... well it could be called ICOJ then.. ISE? O.o
VSE = Vendetta Stock Exchange
ICOJ = Intergalactic Court of Justice, NOTHING TO DO WITH STOCKS.
rtfa man
ICOJ = Intergalactic Court of Justice, NOTHING TO DO WITH STOCKS.
rtfa man
Intergalactic Stock Exchange. I think it has a nice ring to it. ICOJ is just weird. But then again so is NASDAQ. Interesting...
I had a discussion with Sheean in game about renaming VSE to ISE. I simply wanted to point out that "IC-anything" should just be "I" since intergalactic is one word. My usage of ISE was based on an in-game discussion, not the post in question. Still, it is related to the topic. Please try not to jump to any conclusions.
Oh... since we're getting anal about everything, shouldn't "rtfa" be "rtfp" since there are no articles to speak of?
Oh... since we're getting anal about everything, shouldn't "rtfa" be "rtfp" since there are no articles to speak of?
Why not get StarFreeze to run it through ICE?
Uhh... in game discussion? /me don't remember -.- (but anyway, my memory is crap; so who knows)
Well.. I don't really care who what etc VSE runs.. as long AS it runs :) But having it in ice would be pretty cool yeah.
Well.. I don't really care who what etc VSE runs.. as long AS it runs :) But having it in ice would be pretty cool yeah.
Bah, you don't remember me telling you to rename VSE to ISE? I'm disappointed in you, Sheean. I'm gonna pack up all my ideas and leave! Good day to you, sir.
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Will this intergalactic court be needing any jurors?
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My vote for Judge Judy is up as a possible candidate. Judge Joe Brown and that bald guy from Texas Justice would also do if need be. If all else fails be your own judge, juror, and executioner. It's more fun that way.
I vote myself as head arbiter of the Justice Courts...I'm usually level headed guy...I try to put out the flames...etc...
OK, I've tought a basic 'idea':
You can sue anyone, for anything, at a cost of 10k.
If you win: you get back 8k + 80% of any fines the other payed (if any)
If you lose: you get back 0 + you must pay fines (if any)
In case somebody sues someone, both be /msg'd and both will have a day (atleast 24h) to collect 'evidence', and see what he/she could actually be found guilty of. It will start counting as soon as both are notified of the court.
A time will be discussed for the court to happen.
Evidence could be: telling what happened, quoting logs and having withnesses join the court.
When the trial starts a group will be started and the following will join: the defendant, the plaintiff, 1 ICOJ judge, and 1 ICOJ jury.
The ICOJ judge will start the trial. The opponent will be given time to tell his story, and tells for what crimes the defendant should be punished (a site will come with all the possible crimes and max. fines etc), the defendant may *not* say anything will that is going on. Then the defendant may tell his story, and attack the opponent's story. Then both parties will discus, the ICOJ master and jury can 'steer' the discussion in case it gets a bit out of hand. If there are withnesses both may call them in whenever they want, there can only be one withness at a time in a group, and the ICOJ judge will invite the withness (if necesary he'll have a /msg conversation with the jury.) When the withness is done with his story he or she must leave the group.
When both the jury and the judge agree that the court is done everybody will leave the group. The jury will then have a /msg discussion with both the opponent and the defendant. He may *not* tell anyone about what he's talking about. Then the judge and jury will have a discussion and will decide wether or not the defendant is guilty of any of the charges.
If any of the parties could not come to the court during the set time, the court will happen without him/her unless the remaining party decides otherwise.
'Groups' could also sue people (or people could sue groups, or groups sue groups etc.) In such a case a representative of the group will come to the court.
You can sue anyone, for anything, at a cost of 10k.
If you win: you get back 8k + 80% of any fines the other payed (if any)
If you lose: you get back 0 + you must pay fines (if any)
In case somebody sues someone, both be /msg'd and both will have a day (atleast 24h) to collect 'evidence', and see what he/she could actually be found guilty of. It will start counting as soon as both are notified of the court.
A time will be discussed for the court to happen.
Evidence could be: telling what happened, quoting logs and having withnesses join the court.
When the trial starts a group will be started and the following will join: the defendant, the plaintiff, 1 ICOJ judge, and 1 ICOJ jury.
The ICOJ judge will start the trial. The opponent will be given time to tell his story, and tells for what crimes the defendant should be punished (a site will come with all the possible crimes and max. fines etc), the defendant may *not* say anything will that is going on. Then the defendant may tell his story, and attack the opponent's story. Then both parties will discus, the ICOJ master and jury can 'steer' the discussion in case it gets a bit out of hand. If there are withnesses both may call them in whenever they want, there can only be one withness at a time in a group, and the ICOJ judge will invite the withness (if necesary he'll have a /msg conversation with the jury.) When the withness is done with his story he or she must leave the group.
When both the jury and the judge agree that the court is done everybody will leave the group. The jury will then have a /msg discussion with both the opponent and the defendant. He may *not* tell anyone about what he's talking about. Then the judge and jury will have a discussion and will decide wether or not the defendant is guilty of any of the charges.
If any of the parties could not come to the court during the set time, the court will happen without him/her unless the remaining party decides otherwise.
'Groups' could also sue people (or people could sue groups, or groups sue groups etc.) In such a case a representative of the group will come to the court.
It sounds fun but the big question is whether it's enforceable. What's going to happen to the defendant if he/she refused to pay the amount? And likewise. You really can't force anyone to do anything. Unless you have an uber police ship that's completely invulnerable I don't think this'll hold for very long. If it's one of those deals where you "arrest" someone and forcefully take 'em to trial, I just can't see it working. Both parties will need to have a very close argument to get engaged in such debates to ever agree to hand the money over.
Basicly, if one refuses to pay. That person can't sue anybody anymore, and everybody can basicly shoot that person whenever, wherever he/she wants without getting sued...
Also, in case somebody sues that person (who didn't cooperated with the court) he/she will be notified of the court, but can't join until the other fines have been paid.
This is mainly for settling stuff down, like 'person A, shoot person B. Then person B, shoots person A' and they start griefing each other; hopefully this should settle that down a bit.
Maybe, something which also could be done: in case a person doesn't cooperate 'bounty hunters' could hunt that person until he does pay, and the 'bounty hunters' will get paid a part of the fine.
Edit: it could be so, that if a person refused to pay, his fine gets increased, and that money will be given to the bounty hunters. The extra fine will be depending on the player, a n00b will get a lower increase than an über-vet.
Also, in case somebody sues that person (who didn't cooperated with the court) he/she will be notified of the court, but can't join until the other fines have been paid.
This is mainly for settling stuff down, like 'person A, shoot person B. Then person B, shoots person A' and they start griefing each other; hopefully this should settle that down a bit.
Maybe, something which also could be done: in case a person doesn't cooperate 'bounty hunters' could hunt that person until he does pay, and the 'bounty hunters' will get paid a part of the fine.
Edit: it could be so, that if a person refused to pay, his fine gets increased, and that money will be given to the bounty hunters. The extra fine will be depending on the player, a n00b will get a lower increase than an über-vet.
c ck market ....hehe sorry i had to
I can be a lawyer (for a resonable fee, 500-750c per representation) I know the laws, Civil, Criminal, Military Code of Justice, and many of the Vendetta Laws and Statutes.
I'll even take a BAR exam if you want, or I can make one up if you want.
Lawyers should be included in the Court since defendant and plaintiff may not be closely aware of the laws and statutes and could make a potentially erronious move. A lawyer, as in the real world, would help review the case with the client and go over things that may have been missed and think of questions that may have been unrealized.
Lawyers would also be able to better represent the client by knowing the ins and outs of the laws so that the client may be able to be aquitted or have charges lessened.
I would also suggest the implementation of the Miranda Rights in the Court so that a client maybe treated with dignity and respect that is required of the court in the real world.
[SDF] Black 1
CO, SDF
PS: May I suggest a PANEL of judges, similiar to the US Supreme Court, a single man, while level headed should never be trusted with such power, thats why jury's are used.
I'll even take a BAR exam if you want, or I can make one up if you want.
Lawyers should be included in the Court since defendant and plaintiff may not be closely aware of the laws and statutes and could make a potentially erronious move. A lawyer, as in the real world, would help review the case with the client and go over things that may have been missed and think of questions that may have been unrealized.
Lawyers would also be able to better represent the client by knowing the ins and outs of the laws so that the client may be able to be aquitted or have charges lessened.
I would also suggest the implementation of the Miranda Rights in the Court so that a client maybe treated with dignity and respect that is required of the court in the real world.
[SDF] Black 1
CO, SDF
PS: May I suggest a PANEL of judges, similiar to the US Supreme Court, a single man, while level headed should never be trusted with such power, thats why jury's are used.
black 1 stfu......you sound like hitler again :P
lol, I mean to sound like the WCOL (World Court of Law)
Hmm.. yeah, lawyers could be implemented, but they should be optional (and not more than 1.)
Beside... there are no 'laws' yet.
Also, you can't have a large jury couse there can not be more than 8 or 6 (not sure) people in a group... and you must also have room left for withnesses...
Also, not all courts have juries, it's not necessary; it only adds more problem in the case of vendetta (is the jury informed enough, objective enough?)
Beside... there are no 'laws' yet.
Also, you can't have a large jury couse there can not be more than 8 or 6 (not sure) people in a group... and you must also have room left for withnesses...
Also, not all courts have juries, it's not necessary; it only adds more problem in the case of vendetta (is the jury informed enough, objective enough?)