Skyfox: Indeed. People: THIS IS A TEST. It is incomplete and imperfect. That's why it's free. By all means share your opinions and ideas, but lets try to keep it all in perspective, okay?

Yes, it's a test, we all know that. But that doesn't mean jack if it's a task instead of being fun to play.

I was echoing what Skyfox was saying. Clearly a reputation system of some sort is needed. Trying to police the actions of all the players would be impossible without it. Sure, having multiple guides 24/7 might help, but the guide system was thrown together quickly due to user requests and is in need of a re-write - not to mention that if you think playing is a task, being a guide is 10x worse.

What I'm saying here is that of course pirating and griefing are a problem, but the infrastructure to deal with them does not yet exist yet and may have to wait for other aspects of the engine to be complete before a reputation system can be fully implemented. Pirating will probably always be part of Vendetta, but it will be much more dangerous and difficult. Lastly, please read the "News" section. Things are not all hearts and bunnies for the devs right now. A little consideration for that would be appreciated.

i'm am very irritated also, but for a different reason than you all. Stop complaining. Please. I agree with the dev's decision completely. THERE IS NOTHING WRON WITH PIRATING! even if everyone does it!. I have honestly not pirated since the reset. I dont see what everyones problem is with it. am I alone in this opinion?

please excuse my use of short choppy sentences..

i hate to be a jerk but, if someone doesnt grief everyone else then how do people get better? its not gonna stop, i would love for it to stop but thats just not gonna happen. some people put everything they have into this game, the devs certainly did, some of the players are on so much that its almost their life, and to more than a few it is their life. so yeah if the griefing stopped i would be happy, but i know it wont. a lot of the players here got really good because they learned to beat the griefers. HsR was a griefer and im sure that he wasnt exactly the easiest person to beat in the game. maybe im giving him a bit to much credit i dunno but thats the way this game goes. the day griefing stops is the day pirating stops, neither are going to happen, unless the game stops (thats a very very bad thing)

-invisiblish one

oh, most noobs arent very familiar with this: pirating is NOT griefing. they are 2 different things done for 2 different reasons, no point in confusing the 2

edit: ojok2 you arent alone but apparently people still dont get the idea that its part of the game

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not to mention that if you think playing is a task, being a guide is 10x worse.
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I'm a former Half-Life server admin of a few servers. I know it can be frustrating to deal with problem users. However, the game can be moderated and still be fun for the server admin.

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edit: ojok2 you arent alone but apparently people still dont get the idea that its part of the game
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Stop trying to antagonize people. I have a question for you? Were you around in the 3.0 and 3.1 days, the days before pirating and griefing became major problems? If yes, then you know what I'm talking about. If no, then please educate yourself before people see you as ignorant.

Nope, we're not going there. This thread has wandered around long enough.

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