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The radeon HD 6450 is a complete POS sorry to say
Sorry for the long post in advance
Video games and video card subjects can get complex unfortunately.
Don't use that radeon HD 6450 for games the rating is only about 290 very low.
Keep in mind the memory size will never overcome the subject of the quality and speed of the GPU(graphics processor unit)
There are 2GB,3GB,4GB cards out there with crappy GPU's and sold with more ram, but those are only sales tactics to the unkowledgable and they know this. Thats why those cards are cheap.
Those will simply NEVER out perform even an older GTX 756MB GPU simply because of the GPU speed and quality itself. Of course the older cards are not direct X 9+ compatible either but just FYI
GPU quality and speed first, then GPU memory quality and speed, then memory size is the important sequence.
The GPU's main importance will be the core clock speed such as 900MHz etc. the memory clock and interface in MHZ and interface bandwidth such as 128bit vs 192bit and 256bit interface. This is the interface of the memory etc. etc.
The memory interface, and how many GB is the transfer rate of the memory. Allthis equates to how many pixels per clock the card can process and so on.
The bottom line is those benchmark testing pages I linked gives you a better idea and easier to review.
Use your ctrl+F to search those pages easily for models so you can compare.
As I said if you want awsome maxed effect on VO best to get at least a card with the very very minimum rating of 2,500+ shown on that page
The only page that has any cards that will be useful for you are listed here.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
The lowest cards shown on this High End page are around 722 and even those cards are not going to do well with max settings i'm sorry to say.
The $500 dollar example was only to show you a power house PC on the upper end. So there is no doubt you can get something much less then this. with a nice vid card that will meet your needs.
The poster posts $398.48 decent specs there but you will need a slight upgraded power supply and vid card still if you want max setting on VO
Even an Intel core 2 quad machine would be good with a good vid card.
What is the specs of the machine you have now ? You might just need a good vid card to go with it for max settings on VO to play nice.
Anyhow long response I know but this crap is complex and gets even more complex with budget topics thrown in too.
Hope this helps
The radeon HD 6450 is a complete POS sorry to say
Sorry for the long post in advance
Video games and video card subjects can get complex unfortunately.
Don't use that radeon HD 6450 for games the rating is only about 290 very low.
Keep in mind the memory size will never overcome the subject of the quality and speed of the GPU(graphics processor unit)
There are 2GB,3GB,4GB cards out there with crappy GPU's and sold with more ram, but those are only sales tactics to the unkowledgable and they know this. Thats why those cards are cheap.
Those will simply NEVER out perform even an older GTX 756MB GPU simply because of the GPU speed and quality itself. Of course the older cards are not direct X 9+ compatible either but just FYI
GPU quality and speed first, then GPU memory quality and speed, then memory size is the important sequence.
The GPU's main importance will be the core clock speed such as 900MHz etc. the memory clock and interface in MHZ and interface bandwidth such as 128bit vs 192bit and 256bit interface. This is the interface of the memory etc. etc.
The memory interface, and how many GB is the transfer rate of the memory. Allthis equates to how many pixels per clock the card can process and so on.
The bottom line is those benchmark testing pages I linked gives you a better idea and easier to review.
Use your ctrl+F to search those pages easily for models so you can compare.
As I said if you want awsome maxed effect on VO best to get at least a card with the very very minimum rating of 2,500+ shown on that page
The only page that has any cards that will be useful for you are listed here.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
The lowest cards shown on this High End page are around 722 and even those cards are not going to do well with max settings i'm sorry to say.
The $500 dollar example was only to show you a power house PC on the upper end. So there is no doubt you can get something much less then this. with a nice vid card that will meet your needs.
The poster posts $398.48 decent specs there but you will need a slight upgraded power supply and vid card still if you want max setting on VO
Even an Intel core 2 quad machine would be good with a good vid card.
What is the specs of the machine you have now ? You might just need a good vid card to go with it for max settings on VO to play nice.
Anyhow long response I know but this crap is complex and gets even more complex with budget topics thrown in too.
Hope this helps
The GPU's main importance will be the core clock speed such as 900MHz etc.
^ Something to note about this is that clock speed comparisons are really only relevant when comparing similar GPUs of the same architecture. Example: http://www.hwcompare.com/105/radeon-hd-5670-vs-radeon-hd-5870/
GPUs are parallel processors. Another way they make cheap ones cheap is by cutting down the number of CUDA cores (nVidia) or Stream processors (AMD). If you buy a low end card with a high clock speed that's only got 1/4 the number of cores, it's still going to be slow.
For the books, I play VO at 1400x1050 with all the detail maxed out and 8xMSAA on with my Radeon HD5670. It gets >=80fps in all but the busiest sectors.
^ Something to note about this is that clock speed comparisons are really only relevant when comparing similar GPUs of the same architecture. Example: http://www.hwcompare.com/105/radeon-hd-5670-vs-radeon-hd-5870/
GPUs are parallel processors. Another way they make cheap ones cheap is by cutting down the number of CUDA cores (nVidia) or Stream processors (AMD). If you buy a low end card with a high clock speed that's only got 1/4 the number of cores, it's still going to be slow.
For the books, I play VO at 1400x1050 with all the detail maxed out and 8xMSAA on with my Radeon HD5670. It gets >=80fps in all but the busiest sectors.
Radeon HD 5670 can probably run VO on max setting maybe. I would NOT say that it could do it for all computers though. Probably more rare to run well with games on max settings. Not to say it can't but just because some users have it working satifactory doesn't mean it will for you. It is more likely it won't perform well based on the specs of the GPU, clock speeds, memory transfer rates, and pixels per clock that it can process.
The Radeon 5670 is a cheap card with a benchmark rating of about 1067
Not that it can't play games but with todays monitor resolutions it's a bit weak.
If it works for some then great, but if you purchase this card and it doesn't perform as expected simply because some others have used it then I would say it's rolling the dice.
Any Radeon or Nvidia card with a benchmark above 2,500 and you will most likely have ZERO graphics issues related to the hardware itself.
In otherwords video cards on max settings should not be a crap shoot but better GPU is higher insurance that it will definately work on max settings.
Happy Shopping and Merry Christmas. What have you gotton yourself into LOL
The Radeon 5670 is a cheap card with a benchmark rating of about 1067
Not that it can't play games but with todays monitor resolutions it's a bit weak.
If it works for some then great, but if you purchase this card and it doesn't perform as expected simply because some others have used it then I would say it's rolling the dice.
Any Radeon or Nvidia card with a benchmark above 2,500 and you will most likely have ZERO graphics issues related to the hardware itself.
In otherwords video cards on max settings should not be a crap shoot but better GPU is higher insurance that it will definately work on max settings.
Happy Shopping and Merry Christmas. What have you gotton yourself into LOL
i5 2.5Ghz 4Gb 500Gb Win7 Pro 64Bit on its way from ebay (it was cheap)
when it arrives ill look into a gfx card for it
when it arrives ill look into a gfx card for it
Perfect, I was going to recommend ebay or amazon even for a used one with high specs then just ad graphics.
You'll be set, Merry Christmas
You'll be set, Merry Christmas
It arrived today and it runs VO on high settings with the onboard gfx just fine
I will still look into a card for it tho after xmas is over
I will still look into a card for it tho after xmas is over
Is it worth me buying a cheap gfx card for this comp or will the onboard gfx be better than a cheap card ?
If it is doing what you want it to why bother spending more money?
when you say high setting are you turning up all the textured graphics and stuff and distance sliders up to 20 too ?
If it's working without issues no need to graphics card.
Not sure what gfx card is onboard sometimes they have OK - decent ones on rare occasion.
If all your doing is playing VO and it's working then no need to change it unless you see something wrong with or notice any graphics quality issues.
You can always ad one later if you decide to play some other games that require even better graphics.
Also check your FPS in game /fps to see how thats performing while you play.
This could tell you something too.
But if it's not broke don't fix it.
Happy gaming
If it's working without issues no need to graphics card.
Not sure what gfx card is onboard sometimes they have OK - decent ones on rare occasion.
If all your doing is playing VO and it's working then no need to change it unless you see something wrong with or notice any graphics quality issues.
You can always ad one later if you decide to play some other games that require even better graphics.
Also check your FPS in game /fps to see how thats performing while you play.
This could tell you something too.
But if it's not broke don't fix it.
Happy gaming