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Oct 13, 2003 Magus link
No pyro, I'm pretty sure he's just an attention junkie. The best way to deal with attention junkie is to not give them any attention like FM said. Having said that, I think the best way to deny this kid attention would be by sending this thread to lockland.


edit: Okay, FM fixed. Sorry, I slipped up there.
Oct 13, 2003 Pyro link
Eeesh... Sounds like a neo-Nazi to me...
Oct 13, 2003 Celkan link
I am demanding a guide come online to remedy this situation that has unfolded.

A player named Adolph Hitler has come online and now Kastin started with some heil's. I am getting extremely offended with this. I don't want to ignore anyone cause I don't want it to happen behind my back. But I don't want to listen to it. And, the name should have NOT passed through the filter in the first place.
Oct 13, 2003 cembandit link
Did he say anything racist? I didnt hear him say anything racist. He just asked some very pointed questions about what really happend, and how the war started.
Oct 13, 2003 Urza link
Heil Hitler would be offending.. Sieg heil... nope.

But at least Kastin's role playing....

And why should the name not have passed through the filter? it IS just a name. Should every child in the world with the name "Saddam" have his head blown of? Every little Osama be fed to pigs? I think not.
Oct 13, 2003 Pyro link
Yes, but that's more akin to asking if everyone named Adolph should have their head blown off. If it were just Adolph, I wouldn't care. Adolph Hitler, on the other hand, refers to a specific person.
Oct 13, 2003 Forum Moderator link
I'm sorry, I can't come in-game from my current location to answer your "demand". However, from the sound of it, I'm not certain that there is actionable behavior. May I suggest that you go ahead and /ignore or simply disregard the behavior so it will extinguish itself? This sort of thing is only fun for the perpetrator if people (over)react. Sometimes this is the only power they feel in their lives. You can take it away by witholding the negative attention they crave.
Oct 13, 2003 Celkan link
cembandit, he also asked if it actually happened. both of my grandfathers fought in that war. I think it happened.
Oct 13, 2003 Celkan link
still the Nick should be gotten rid of cause it does symbolize a LOT of bad stuff, and most ppl aren't gonna look beyond that

I told him I'd give him a chance if he changed to another nick, but he refused.
Oct 13, 2003 Forum Moderator link
...er, Magus? Wanna fix that please?
Oct 13, 2003 toshiro link
Celkan,

as these people do not pose an immediate threat to you (physically), i think ignoring them is the safest and also least time and effort-consuming way.
like the FM and magus aptly put it, give them any attention exceeding ignoring them and you fuel their furnaces.
i understand your being offended and do not want to disregard that aspect, but i think you'd suffer less irritation if you were ignorant of what they type.
Oct 13, 2003 romikq link
I have a character named Sir Francis Drake(which I only used once or twice but still). Francis Drake was a pirate who killed lots of people. Should that nick be banned? If someone wants to assume the name Beria, or Adolph Hitler, or George W Bush, or whatever, they should be allowed to. Same as if in the real world someone wants to be a nazi, he can be one, as long as he doesn't try to propagand hate to others.
Oct 13, 2003 genka link
/me compares the amount of people that died as a result of Drakes actions with the amount that died from Hitler's actions

But thats not the point, to a modern man, the name "Adolph Hitler" is almost the same as the name "Jew Killer". There's a slight difference between killing people and being the symbol of killing a whole bunch of people in a horrible way, ya know...

The mere presence of that nick, rather than the chars actions, cause a rather large disturbance. Like this thread.

/me thinks that a lot of people, especially young people from countries not much affected by the war, don't quite realize the weight the name has. Therefore they make dumb jokes thinking "oou! I'll name myself after a man who caused the single worst conflict in the world, slaughtered millions of completly innocent people and a few more millions of soldiers from most of the corners of the world. It'll be FUNNY!!! YEA!!!"

Dumb little *****.
Oct 13, 2003 Urza link
All because a name offends you doesn't mean it should be blocked or banned. You dont like it, dont look at it. I'm not trying to defend the actions of those people, but i do not believe that you, or anyone, should be allowed to decide what is blockable. I'm all for compleat lack of censorship.

And if it really annoys you, blow the **** outta him. that's what guns are for. Dont give him a break. Sooner or later, he'll quit or give up and change.

And Genka, i find the name "Adolph Hitler" much, MUCH less offencive than the name "Jew Killer" but i still see no reason to block eather. All because it's offencive to me doesn't mean that it should be blockable.
Oct 13, 2003 Magus link
"blow the **** outta him"
-Seriously, where else would you get the chance to kill Adolf Hitler? You know you've always wanted to do it.

Ha, ha. Funny right?

Eeeee.
Oct 13, 2003 Urza link
i was thinking the same thing
Oct 13, 2003 Forum Moderator link
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Oct 14, 2003 Forum Moderator link
In fact, I politely asked the various Hitlers to stop, and they politely did so.

You are all forgetting your job here. You are supposed to be play testing here in exchange for 24/7 access. The near constant bickering and baiting is not helpful in this regard.

This childishness saps the already limited resources of a very small company that has been EXTEREMELY generous to you. Show a little gratitude and try to concentrate on the goal.

You are also expected to enjoy yourselves. If you are not enjoying yourself, please log off. If you are deliberately interfering with the ability of other players to enjoy themselves, please log off.

For the record: I will not be banning Adolph Hitler based on the name alone (and yes, I know there has been a name change). I will be watching closely for other behaviour however.

This thread is done and [locked]. Please do not reopen the issue.
Oct 14, 2003 genka link
/me is gonna go along with the "no-censorship" thing

But, I just want to say, Sam, if you find "Adolph Hitler" less offensive than "Jew Killer", well, then I can venture a guess as to which corner of the world you come from...
Oct 14, 2003 Kastin Thunderclaw link
Its just a name, check how many Hitlers there are in the phone book ! Do you find all these people offensive?!

HEIL!