guck! man, how did red get 100 caps. I thought they were the stoner team... oh... wait...

/me looks at whats in his right hand and then looks a hachi.

I wish Asp hadn't deleted his post. I read it before he did, and thought it was pretty insightful.

you know what I liked about 3.1.x style of capping? you could get flags when they were mined to hell, with a 5 or 6 people demining team.

What about... having frigates in the nation sectors. A man of your nation takes it down, your nation gets a point, and 500,000c to every member on the team etc. etc.

They should have a slight Regen of about 70HP/s just to make things fun. Oh and the defbots should protect it >:D

Hi. I deleted the original post because it made the claim that "nobody" had been able to cap in the current incarnation. Then I checked the scoreboard and realized it had finally been done. I could've just removed that part, but I just felt like deleting the whole thing.

The current state of capping is now a complete lack of interest, it seems.

Asp

you need insane numbers on the agressing side and little numbers on the defensive side. And this is somethign that I have seen lacking lately.

cheers

Rene, even if you have that, it's boring. ALL the fun caps were where the offence was out numbered. Like some of the caps where blue took reds flag, then gold ambushed them. Or a good number of caps before defence bots... the most vivid in my mind being the time me and Ti Frekan dragged the gold flag all the way to s9 before the 5 golds on my *** got me.
When the offence is the underdog they generally feel good about it. If the defence is then people get upset.
Honestly I'd really like to see the defence bots go... and maybe later have them replaced with a noob sector (no pk) that's off to the side of each home sector where people of that color can bot to their heart's content.

Eldrad, I disagree
it's normally fun with 4:3 offense:defense odds, or more biased towards defense. Defending is easier than actual capping really.
A solo cap is possible... but... that's boring. And two player caps aren't much easier than solo caps.

It's impossible for normal people with less than about 6:3 odds. However, a solo cap is both possible and easy if 0 defenders are on. The second a defender comes on, it becomes impossible, because the solo capper (because of the means of solo capping) cannot return fire or dodge particularly well.

you could return fire...

But as soon as you do, the bots would come in and kill you... Unless you had an advgat on primary and another energy weapon on secondary, in which case it would be possible..

Blaster you're talking about only since defence bots were introduced. I'm talking over all. 4:3 means there isn't particularly good fighting after the offence gets it out of the sectors with defence bots. And there's definately no good fighting when the offence gets it near their bots.

no Eldrad, the defenders still have the edge, with defense bots, they can defend 10:1 odds. Defense is always easier than offense.
and Roguelazer, no, you don't have to do that. Up to you to figure out.

It's possible to avoid bots without facing or firing on them? Hrmph.

what i think it should be, is that D-bots come online when there is no one of that color on... or if its like 5 to 1. I really don't like D-bots... ive had lots of fun capping and defending(outnumberd and holding my own.) d-bots have taken away some of the good 'ol times for me. I really would like to see them go, or have some controll on them.

I really liked when you could de-mine a sector mined to hell and cap... 3.1 days.
Rogue umm... when did I say you don't ;) but when did I say you DO? ;)
you figure it out.

I agree with sheepdog. I like the D. Bots to prevent n00b killings and protect the flag when nobody is on, but as they are now it is impossible to have the huge battles we used to. As Incarnate said, however, the strenght of the D. Bots now is due to their stupidity. Once the AI becomes decent, I think the Defense bots will no longer be able to outboost and outgun everyone else.

Dave, do you like frigates or something? :)

500c for takeing down a frigate? how, ummm, not worth it.

Taking down a frigate requires a lot of money. We would need more than 500k for that job. How about no defbots, just a big frigate and when you take it down it leaves a flag that you can take and boost to your home sector with.