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Dec 24, 2009 skelbley08 link
- 32bit Linux copy-paste with CTRL-C in edit boxes updated to
support X Selection event protocol. It now works with other X
apps like xterm.
Dec 24, 2009 Impavid link
Gosh I'm SO GLAD. That was a GLARING omission from VO. I can fucking SLEEP AT NIGHT NOW.
Dec 24, 2009 momerath42 link
I wonder if it will ever become clear, to people who've been seeing our weekly updates for several years now, that it often happens that something, which has little-to-nothing to do with the major thrust(s) of our development time, is ready to push out on a friday, and we release it, rather than waiting til there's enough that certain people won't whine about how we spent a week doing X. This patch is actually 100% thanks to Solra (and Ray for integrating it); we're all working on things that don't get done in a few days, it's the Wed before christmas eve, and shit, which you have no conception of, has just happened in my life. I hope my subtext is as clear as yours was without CAPITALIZATION tumble.
Dec 24, 2009 Whistler link
I'm sorry to hear things aren't going well, Mom. This time of year seems to both induce and magnify "shit".

Once again I wonder why, with all the freedom, access and opportunities for input the devs provide, one would choose to be rude to them. Consistently rude. You'll probably try to blow it off as an attempt at humor, tumble, but your previous behavior indicates otherwise. The holidays are stressful times, and I think you would enjoy them more if you took a different approach here.
Dec 24, 2009 Impavid link
I actually did think it was funny, but I can see why you wouldn't. Sorry you're having a bad time of it Momer. I would hope you'd all know by now to mostly ignore me, except when I'm helping you squash a bug.
Dec 24, 2009 momerath42 link
How, exactly do you "hope" we'd ignore you, and still put the kind of effort, that you clearly do, into saying the soul-draining shite you do. For your info, it's not my "bad time of it." One of my best friends in the world (someone I wouldn't be here without) just died in a car wreck, and I don't feel up to releasing, tonight, what I've been working on for two weeks. I don't feel up to sleeping either, so feel free to piss me off some more.
Dec 24, 2009 Azumi link
Sorry to hear that mom. I do not hope you see this until after Christmas, you should take time off with your family instead of this.
Dec 24, 2009 Resistance37 link
Take care of yourself momerath, I really hope things will shape up for you.
Dec 24, 2009 Strat link
That's horrible, momerath. You have my deepest sympathies. The community cares, and I know many of us will be be thinking about you this Christmas.
Dec 24, 2009 sahara214 link
You will have a special place in my prayers Mom.Holidays are stressful enough without all the drama. Take your family and hold them close and take a deep breath.

Chi~
Dec 24, 2009 mdaniel link
I am seconding Strat's expression of sympathy.
Dec 24, 2009 Phaserlight link
It can be hard sometimes to imagine why terrible things like that happen. Hope things get better for you soon.
Dec 24, 2009 shlimazel link
That's awful! Don't post here, go spend time with the family! Best of wishes to you.
Dec 24, 2009 mr_spuck link
that sucks
Dec 24, 2009 Whistler link
I'm so sorry Momerath, that's terrible. I'm surprised that you were able to release anything, but perhaps you found a few minutes of solace in work.

I was going to commiserate and allude to something I'm going through - but mine was expected and probably temporary.

"I actually did think it was funny, but I can see why you wouldn't. Sorry you're having a bad time of it Momer."

I think if you had phrased this as "I'm sorry, I actually did think it was funny, but I can see why you wouldn't. Sorry you're having a bad time of it Momer." you might have come off looking better. As it is, you appear to be blaming Momerath's state of mind for this unpleasantness, instead of your own "soul-draining shite". I would like to imagine that you don't actually want to come off this way and are surprised by the reaction. The fact is you, among a few others, have been laying it on a bit too thick lately and ought to put some thought into how your words might be received.
Dec 24, 2009 Impavid link
Yes, that's it exactly, I set out to hurt momerath's feelings knowing in advance he is in a bad place, as I have a crystal ball that notified me he'd be vulnerable. :/ Please...

Momerath, I am truly sorry for your loss. Feel free to take it out on me.
Dec 24, 2009 Aleksey link
No, tumble, you were the same ass you usually are, and continue to act as one, so you got a response an ass deserves

You always have our sympathies and support, Mom
Dec 24, 2009 Apex link
You devs/moderators are far more kind than I would be. I'd have outright banned so many people on this forum for the bile they spew on this small community for no reason other than their own entertainment.
Dec 24, 2009 Whistler link
Too bad, I was trying to give you an out.

The point is, tumble, that you post like that quite often - and it's too much, regardless of the reader's vulnerability. I'm sure it is truly "soul draining". It does not come off as joking. It comes off as angry most of the time and you were bound to get an angry response at some point. You don't get to be a pissy martyr here.

I don't think banning would ever be the appropriate response in this case. The "kindness" is yet another demonstration of how cool the devs are. If the devs wanted the sort of environment where behavior like this was a banning offense, it could be done.
As for the bile spewed in other situations, that's Inc's call.
Dec 24, 2009 Impavid link
You didn't give me an out whistler, you just want to keep ridiculing, which is fine, I can take it, I don't take it personally. Righteous indignation is far uglier than my first post. Had I known Momerath's situation ahead of time, I would not have posted anything except my condolences. You're "laying it on too thick". I've made very few forum posts the last two weeks at all, but you need someone to attack for other people's posts, and I presented a target. So bring it I guess, I can take it.