it just says connection refused. failed to connect

Because you fail at checking the login name.

wrong surbius this is before i even have to log in newb. anyways i got it working peer-guardian doesn't like vo servers for some reason

well isn't that just the darnedest thing

Imagine that, user error

Karma pey..

ok honestly you can all stop posting in this thread now

It certainly is a possibility, one of an infinite number that sprout from this moment alone.