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Before the new economy....

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Jul 29, 2006 ThinkHen link
With the new trade widgets, it seems like the new dynamic economy isn't far off... does this mean that new ores are on the way too? It seems like ores have as much importance as trade goods, I'm just curious how they'd be added in.

-Nautargos
Jul 29, 2006 incarnate link
I have to finish up the interface stuff, then I have to make this big tree of how everything.. works (what ores form in what equipment to become what items, yadda yadda), and then I have to redo the universe to repopulate the various ores and minerals everywhere. There will be considerably more component item types (including more rare ores and the like).

So, it's not going to be trivial, but it shouldn't actually take me all that long. If my life were more normal, it would probably be a one-week thing. It's mostly a high-level design kinda process, making the tree, pre-thinking a bit on how it'll be used down the road, and distributing it across the universe.

I'm sure current mining types will be unhappy that their current known sources of stuff may be moving around, but there'll be a lot more stuff to discover. And it'll actually have a point.
Jul 30, 2006 davejohn link
Well, I am a bit of a miner , lots of moths with HD beams , taurs with adv scanners and all that . I even RP as a miner , and the Mining charts of The Estenk deep mining Co for which I visited every visitable sector of the universe and charted the roids have proved a valuable resource to myself and fellow guild members.

So please Inc change it all about . Add new sectors of wierd and worderful roids . Make all the known helio roids pure carbonic . Lets have a full periodic table of ores rather than just 13 . Invent new and challenging mining missions.

I will not be in the least unhappy by all this. I welcome the job of remapping the universe . VO has to be dynamic in content , or folk just wander off . I know its a big job Inc , but I look forward to it all happening , and will jump for joy when it does.

Cheers

Ecka
Jul 30, 2006 RelayeR link
"...and then I have to redo the universe to repopulate the various ores and minerals everywhere."

RelayeR weeps for a moment and prepares her REI scouts for the new work ahead.
Jul 30, 2006 forrestmc4 link
/me will be doubling his ore stockpiles across the board so he can focus on the new stuff Soon.
Jul 30, 2006 moldyman link
And by then they'll charge for cargo space in stations! HAHAHAHAHA!
Jul 30, 2006 incarnate link
Existing ore stockpiles may not be particularly meaningful in the new system, when lots more ores and minerals are added.. keep that in mind.
Jul 30, 2006 ArAsH link
I feel a stockmarketcrash comming, lots of people jumping from airlocks :P
Jul 31, 2006 Woodstock link
Sell, Sell,Sell.

Woodstock {EnB} Commander of the UIT Vessel YellowBird
Proprietor of Woodstocks Museum of Ships
Jul 31, 2006 sarahanne link
At least you're getting a heads up. Horders, you are now on notice that your stashes of items may not be worth as much as you think.
Jul 31, 2006 ThinkHen link
I'm certainly going to welcome this change. For the longest time, SCAR was the only guild to know of our special helio location (not going to say it). Then came TRB that found it, cooked many of the roids, and ended up helping the publicity of the sector. Since then even [Itan] knows about it (I think). We all need new ore secrets, its all kind of mixing together.

It would be interesting though if the new ores were set up like the periodic table of elements- where there are groups of related ores, and each one is essentially a better grade than the previous one in the group. (Might help with crafting better grades of ships or weapons).

-Nautargos
Aug 01, 2006 LostCommander link
I was actually thinking it might be cool if the new "ores" WERE the periodic table -- just say that technology has progressed to the point that everything can be custom-made from using atoms like lego blocks.
Aug 06, 2006 ananzi link
the elements in the periodic able appear in different types of ores which are of varying difficulty of extraction and contain various chemicals and combinations of chemicals... it will never be more 'economical' to pull out single atoms of elements than it will to search out the properties of various ores and mine and sell them based on their specific properties beyond what elements are inside of them. it might be possible to extract individual elements but it would never be as economically efficient.

otherwise you might just as take any planet and transform its protons, neutrons and electrons into whatever elements you wanted. or even take any large mass, like any station or capital ship, and do the same. devour it for its protons and neutrons.
Aug 07, 2006 toshiro link
And why shouldn't we? Once shipwrecks and such stuff is introduced, it would be logical to allow people to salvaged those wrecks for metals by breaking them down to their constituents, possibly with special 'salvage beams'.

I'd happily form or join a 'Universal Cleanup Force' type guild.

As for 'running equipment' such as stations, capital (or other) ships, they could have an electromagnetic shield type thing that prevents the disintegrator beam from having an effect upon their hulls.
Aug 07, 2006 Shapenaji link
That's actually a really cool idea ananzi.

If the devs basically take a database of geologic information and turn it into reality. It could be really interesting.
Aug 07, 2006 LostCommander link
Shapenaji, that is what I tried to do with the current ores here with the help of my dad (professional geologist).
Aug 07, 2006 clay link
toshiro most people try to avoid becoming garbage men.
Aug 08, 2006 toshiro link
Meh. It'd still be fun. Besides, I prefer the term 'Sanitation engineer'. ;P
Aug 08, 2006 JimmiStar link
Does this New Economy with its new importance of ores mean that there will be fighting over resources? A battle for certain ore rich asteroids?
That might make the mining missions more interesting.
Aug 08, 2006 LostCommander link
Yes, JimmiStar. In particular, no Xithricite will mean no new ships and no repairs.