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Hive Queen + Entourage + Tutorial Mission = *BOOM*

Nov 19, 2005 Celkan link
Here's the probability that a new player/character will run into a Hive Queen on their tutorial mission while killing the GuideBots in each starting system.

Most Dangerous/Likely
Itan = 1/170
Dau = 1/195
Arta Caelestis = 1/205
Pyronis = 1/206
Sol II = 1/212
Eo = 1/217
Divinia = 1/229
Least Dangerous/Likely
Nov 19, 2005 Harry Seldon link
Haha, interesting. Seems a bit small though... >_>
Nov 19, 2005 Martin link
Hmmm should it just be 1/number of empty sectors in that system?
Nov 20, 2005 Celkan link
No, one over empty sectors squared.

You're picking one sector out of those for the tutorial, and one for the hive queen. Two separate calculations.
Nov 20, 2005 fooz2916 link
Learn the math Celkan. Although you are technically correct that you must square it, you must then repeat and add for each empty sector. So (ie) for Itan: 170/170^2. Which comes down to 1/170.

Probability is equal to (number of situations where the event will happen)/(possible events). The possible events would be 170(number of places queen would be)*170(number of places Tutorial could be). But the hive queen and tutorial could be in the same place in 170 different situations (number of sectors both queen and tutorial could be). 170/(170*170).
Nov 20, 2005 Shapenaji link
Yeah, fooz is right, its just 1/170.

1/170^2 total possibilities, with 170 possible locations for the tutorial.
Nov 20, 2005 Suicidal Lemming link
Isn't the tutorial mission set to check if the sector has a queen in it?
Nov 20, 2005 Martin link
Maybe once :D
Nov 20, 2005 Celkan link
I think it was supposed to be, but apparently not. Let's just say it happened in Pyronis last night.
Nov 20, 2005 icbm1987 link
Woot!

Great way to get introduced to Hive Queens, eh?
Nov 20, 2005 incarnate link
Yeah, we need to fix that when we redo the newbie systems and push more towards the hive-based ideals. Newbie + Queen = Bad. Thanks for the heads up, Celkan.
Nov 20, 2005 Celkan link
No problem :)
Nov 21, 2005 zamzx zik link
though, new players *LIKE* seeing a huge ship tower over them...and they get pwnd. it shows that there IS something to work up to.

a way so n00bs can see some 'o the cool stuff without being pwnd...

like has been suggested, some kind of fast ship with no weapon ports. or a spectator mode, or even better and harder to do, a way of posting movies on the news, that'd be kickass (post the newset battle vs the levi or something like that)
Nov 21, 2005 incarnate link
We've wanted to do battle recordings and then play them back later for ages. It's totally doable. It would just take some time to implement and make work properly. They would only be playable in-game, of course, since they'd be "recordings" of network traffic and wouldn't be actual movies, and they'd be dependent on the user's computer for how fast they worked, but we could totally link them in-line in in-game newsposts and stuff.

Definitely something we'd like to do at some point.
Nov 21, 2005 mdaniel link
ohhh you could finally have proof with all and any bounties and HOW it was done. hehe...
no more glory talk for cheap setups...

M. Duncan
Nov 21, 2005 fooz2916 link
Too bad the process of killing a hive queen isn't all that exciting.

I've got some videos from Fraps of the Levi (pre-gauss weapons).
Nov 21, 2005 zamzx zik link
huh, so then we can finaly have a tutorial movie? you'd only have to say how high...and we'd be there