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PLEASE Give me My Samo

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Nov 04, 2005 vIsitor link
Wow, thats some heavy shiate. What are Levi's making neutron matter?

Or, if no samoflange is availible, I suppose a newbie could opt for the poor-man's alternitive: VanAzek Ore. =P
Nov 04, 2005 a1k0n link
*ahem*

http://www.cheezey.org/thundercats/sounds/outtakes.html
http://www.cheezey.org/thundercats/sounds/outake6.mp3

Samoflange is an inside joke, and the Levi isn't really supposed to drop it, but it does. So there you go.

Yeah, I forgot about the 3 minute thing. Oops.
Nov 04, 2005 mainbutter link
So one of the devs decided to put an easter egg in the game or something? I definitely like it.
Nov 04, 2005 LeberMac link
Miharu found a reference to samoflange in the old "Thundercats" animated TV show out-takes, apparently. Dunno if that's where the devs got it from. [EDIT: Damnit alkon beat me to it as I was calculating tons and Newtons & stuff...]
[EDIT2 - damnit he got the direct link as well! GAH!]
Cheezy does other funny stuff:
http://www.cheezey.org/thundercats/sounds/sounds.html
http://thundercats.vpga.com/cartoon.htm

To me, "Samoflange" sounds like the devs were drunk one night and were going to make a "Some Camouflage" widget but mis-spelled it and forgot about it until it popped up in the game 6 months later, and they left it in as a joke.

But anyway, samoflange is useless except for a "prestige" 8000 kg cargo widget, but you can load up a beghemoth with 120 cu of samoflange (you'll weigh almost a million kg then - 1100 tons) and RAM things to cause awesome damage/send it spinning. Used on big & slow things like the Leviathan and capships.

If my math is right...
You hit with the force of 32 billion Newtons, or 3.6 million tons of force...
(Using US short tons here...)

It's like getting hit in the face by the Hubble Space telescope, or 323 Cadillac Escalade SUV's all at the same time...
Nov 04, 2005 RelayeR link
Workaround:

Scoop up a ship-full and jettison it... keep going until all cargo is jettisoned by you. It will stay for 15 minutes from the time it is jettisoned by you.
Nov 04, 2005 smittens link
Well no one picked it up, but we were jumping in the sector, and it disappeared within five minutes. Please, just give me my Samo!
Nov 05, 2005 incarnate link
We heard those outtakes loong ago (I remember hearing them in the mid/late 90s), and it became an inside joke. I hear World of Warcraft has it too, although they spell it differently. We had it first though, unless some MUD beat us to it.

It has no real point. But it's best to keep your foot off of it.
Nov 05, 2005 Person link
Do stations pay ANYTHING for it? :D

-Calder
Nov 05, 2005 ananzi link
a1kon - " have NPCs with magical infini-radar which pick up rare cargo spaced out in the middle of nowhere, so "space junk" doesn't accumulate."

I just wanted to say thank you for finally agreeing to some small portion of my Janitorial role suggestion thread.
Nov 05, 2005 smittens link
Haha, I finally listened to those out takes, those guys do NOT sound happy with their job.

"What the F*CK is a samoflange?"

Well, I got 32 of it thanks to a1k0n, but I was supposed to get 61...*hint hint*

And there's also that stasis pod that the queen stole from me, I'd still like to sue her.
Nov 05, 2005 mgl_mouser link
a1k0n said We haven't touched the cargo timeout times that I'm aware of. It's fifteen minutes, except if the sector shuts down (five minutes of inactivity) they're all gone.

Well, there there is a bug. I lost CtC cargo in a storm in Pelatus last week. I was based in Jallik so it was a quick turn around. By the time I got there, less than 5 minutes, it was gone. No one claimed it either as no cargo delivery announcement sounded until the nest batch wich was ours again.
Nov 05, 2005 Moofed link
As Mogul said, CtC is also affected by this.

And as far as outtakes go, everyone should watch the outakes from the Breserk anime, good stuff there. I'd post a link but since they are on the dvds.. I'd rather not.
Nov 05, 2005 smittens link
A1k0n told me last night that bot cargo goes bye-bye in 3 minutes, so that fits my story
Nov 05, 2005 mgl_mouser link
I really hate this cargo-go-puff thing.

There's no imaginable clue that I can think of that would make that even remotely believable that a 1-ton ore shipment can disappear without leaving a trace.

If only it was some NPC scavengers racing for free-floating crates.

If objects are to dissolve in space, it should take more than 3 minutes for them to do so.
Nov 05, 2005 Spellcast link
the 3 minute thing is an ancient temporary fix to a problem with bot dropped cargo that just never got changed back.

I'm sure it will be corrected.
Nov 05, 2005 smittens link
Does this correction include giving me my lost Samo?
Nov 05, 2005 Dr. Lecter link
To any Dev: since you have already included a hyperdense and ultrarare widget in the game (i.e. "that damned samoflange!"), once crafting is implemented, could you integrate it? Being as heavy and (limited to the same volume of 1cu) dense as it is, it seems like samo would be an ideal element for some more advanced crafting creations...
Nov 05, 2005 smittens link
No! This is a bad idea!
Nov 05, 2005 raybondo link
Cargo should last for 1000 seconds which I think is about 16 minutes, unless someone who's not me changed it.
If everyone leaves a sector for 5 minutes (I think, unless the dev code accidentally got released into production [again]) the secor process shuts down and all floating cargo gets deleted.
I've been wanting to save that info but that's pretty low on my priority list right now.
Anyways, I talked with Smittens and the samoflange issue is resolved.
Nov 06, 2005 a1k0n link
if nobody picked up the cargo, then how do you know there were 61 units of it?