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Increase UDV combat thrust to 225N
This is just to get a quick/dirty buf into the game, that isn't very extreme. The UDV may still need tweaking even after this, but this is a better place to tweak from.
225N will make a UDV loaded with uc/mp/jack strafe/dodge about the same as a valk with uc/law/sun2x (those loadouts have the same mass, and the valk combat thrust is 225N)
This is just to get a quick/dirty buf into the game, that isn't very extreme. The UDV may still need tweaking even after this, but this is a better place to tweak from.
225N will make a UDV loaded with uc/mp/jack strafe/dodge about the same as a valk with uc/law/sun2x (those loadouts have the same mass, and the valk combat thrust is 225N)
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UDVs are never meant to be equal to valks or proms in combat prowess, sorry. Not my words - those are Inc's.
http://vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/29615?page=2#354777
http://vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/29615?page=2#354777
Just to clarify this. Incarnate has said that he did not want them to be a single purpose machine of destruction. They are not. And they won't even be if you give them very decent stats. The SCP is a tank like no other. The Valk is very light and has 3 small ports. The UDV is a multipurpose, peace keeping interceptor that should be able to hold its own against any intruders and general disturbance. Such as grey space pirates, to quote Incarnate.
I don't see how the UDV would interfere with their greatness if we buffed it a little. It'd be an awesome multipurpose ship in its own clase. Not comparable to the Valk and Prom.
I don't get why a few people are dedicating their time and effort to preventing changes to be done to the UDV. It goes so far that they run out of arguments so that they have to quote stuff the devs supposedly said when they really didn't.
I don't see how the UDV would interfere with their greatness if we buffed it a little. It'd be an awesome multipurpose ship in its own clase. Not comparable to the Valk and Prom.
I don't get why a few people are dedicating their time and effort to preventing changes to be done to the UDV. It goes so far that they run out of arguments so that they have to quote stuff the devs supposedly said when they really didn't.
You have a tendency to make mountains out of mole hills, Sieger. I merely posted a link to Inc's relevant opinion on the matter, specifically stating that those are not my words. I had supported UDVs gaining a stat buff in the past, and I still do today.
225N gets the UDV into the same perfomance range as valk/svg when comparing total ship weight of 5610kg for both ships.
The valk would still have a significant advantage when comparing lighter loadouts, while the UDV would gain some minor advantage when comparing heavier loadouts.
225N puts the UDV into the valk/svg performance range on middleweight loadouts.
The valk would still have a significant advantage when comparing lighter loadouts, while the UDV would gain some minor advantage when comparing heavier loadouts.
225N puts the UDV into the valk/svg performance range on middleweight loadouts.
+1 This is a good idea and won't make the ship severely overpowered.
Throwing in a bundled scanner of some type would be cool too. :)
Throwing in a bundled scanner of some type would be cool too. :)
It already has an ion storm radar extender built in (standard on all raptor models).
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Attaching a cargo and addon scanner in addition to the radar, combined with OP suggestion would be an excellent buff. Pirates would have another ship!
I would love the UDV to be the perfect everything ship, greenwall,
but I am trying to fast track a simple conservative buff.
perhaps you where looking for Sieger's longer term solution thread: Make the Raptor UDV more maneuverable.
but I am trying to fast track a simple conservative buff.
perhaps you where looking for Sieger's longer term solution thread: Make the Raptor UDV more maneuverable.
I'm be good with Roda's "do-it-quick" suggestion. However I will bump my thread when enough time has elapsed.
Also +1 to Greenwall's scanner suggestion. I'd be okay with losing some of my suggested buffs if they gave the scanners.
Also +1 to Greenwall's scanner suggestion. I'd be okay with losing some of my suggested buffs if they gave the scanners.
+1
+1
This wont make it a valk, it's still too wide, just gives a skilled player more of a shot against one.
This wont make it a valk, it's still too wide, just gives a skilled player more of a shot against one.
thank you for your support. i hope more people comment on this.
Yeah no complaints here +1
Added, VO 1.8.330.
I could kiss you Incarnate! Thanks for actively pursuing good suggestions towards a more balanced experience. We appreciate you!
Here, here!
I'd just like to say thanks for making this change, but unfortunately it does little for the usefulness of this ship as far as I can see.