I think proms should be nerfed a bit. Not their armor but their dang speed they can come unload hell upon you and then run away.

oh wow what a great argument!

yea well i like to think of it as short and sweet

The Prom needs to lose armor or lose manuverability. It is comparable to the Rag in the former and a Centurion in the latter. Plus it can hold an AGT, which every single serco and their mother uses when flying a Prom. I'm not saying make it worse, just dont make it a bigge and better Cent with a L port.

proms are no problem. just sneak up on them while they are fighting someone else and typekill them.

lol anazi

Oh whaaaaa

Yes, proms are hard to kill. Just practice more and you should be able to destroy them. Just like any other ship, they just take a little extra effort and patience.

should be able to destroy them? no, given two equal pilots, the one in the prom will win 99% of the time.

However, the prom can't easily get away, especially not with the new wh vulnerability, it can't chase, and so its a rather inflexible ship.

It has its share of weaknesses now, just don't fight the sucker 1v1

Yeah, don't fight the poor prommy 1 v 1. I really like my odds when both my friend and I have SCPs against some silly vulture!

But seriously, I would be quite happy if the SCP was nerfed a bit, or if something else equal to it was brought out in either the UIT/TPG or Itani. That way I could actually play my Itani as one (i.e. tank Serco standing) without crying when I run out of SCPs.

Fly a Rocketrag, aka Mobile Goliath Cannon, the proms don't like em. Neither do rev C's

Rev. Cs should be able to handle rocket rags just fine. Just keep your distance and the rockets will never touch you if you're in a Rev. C.

i expect the prom like every shim can be defeated in a 1v1 with relative eas, it just requires different tactics.

it's my understanding that the prom lacks spin tourque, so all you should have to do is stay clear of the rockets/other S port weapons by straffing, and then keep a healthy roll, to render the autoaim from the GT less effective. just a though, i almost never fight proms.

I fight proms and die.. well... 90% of the time in my usual Rev C / IBG. They're tough. Good training, tho!

However an aggresso with dual AGT eats up a SCP. Ask Holdan.

Lord, no... :P it DOES possess low spin torque, but when fighting it, you can't force it to use its spin torque if the pilot is good.

Matriarch for example, relies entirely on strafes, using the thrust of the ship to aim.

You can't outmaneuver me.

and if you keep your distance, I can turn off autoaim and tag you.

Or I can just turboflare you. But that uses up armor, I like to be unscathed.

I can't count the SCP's I've lost to good valk and rev C pilots. And the many folks that subscribe to anansi's tactics. It really is a matter of skill vs. skill.

If your going to try to face a prom in a 'Taur or a Rag, though, you'd better be good and have the right loadout.

While the prom is a monster you can always elect not to fight it. It's also very very vulnerable to two light fighter pilots.

Well, I find that the proms that do get outmaneuvered (which is the only reason they should lose), still hold on to the old rules of aiming, trying to keep the reticle targetted, and not relying on the autoaim to do it for them. It is then possible to outmaneuver.

However, there's a simple solution that any good prom pilot will tell you.... Back up if they get you off balance. You don't have to back up far, but even just a little bit puts them in prime AGT/flare range.

There is a reason why the top 4 pilots on the duel standings list all fly proms.

I don't know about the others, but the only duel losses I've had as Matriarch were A) against other proms, or B) a result of flying an SVG instead

Trust me, in the right hands, they ARE unbeatable, but they're still balanced I think.

Nerf teh govbus, I say! It's too cheap and newbs can get it!

Nerf Plasma Cannon Mark II's as well.
Way too much DPE.

But uhm yea everyone knows that proms should be nerfed.
Except for the developers obviously.

the problem is to keep the SCP from becoming a brick while still letting it be good. Eldrad was right, the heavies grow to maximum potential very very quickly and balancing them with the current framework for 1vs1 is hard.

but, the SCP is a limited use ship today. I actually like the way it ticks, it's an awesome ship to control a sector, but it can't chase (or run) and such things much at all. personally, I think this a good thing, it gives people a choice and nation ships clearer identity.

besides, what would you nerf on a prom right now? I don't see anything nerfable without making it a complete loss and as such depriving Serco of a true Serco vessel.