I had heard a new player complaining on 100 how boring VO is. He said it is dumb to mindlessly shoot bots which are not even moving.

Well, I created new character, passed the flight test, took first combat training mission and went to Sol II G-10 shooting DenTeks.

I shot down 75 of them gaining Light Weapons 2 then Combat 2. They were flying in, mining, posing for the incoming fire. I could stay in one position shooting all the bots around. One out of 75 bots stopped mining for a second shot at me ONCE then continued mining until I killed him.

I remember when I started playing, they were more agile. They advanced my fire, some were chasing me ...

This is really dull. Is it bug or some feature to attract new players? It is boring even for newbies.

When I made a new player shortly after those new tutorials and sectors were made I passed the tests i left the training sector (like you should) and did courier missions, this was far more entertaining then the combat missions

Something just needs to tell them to get the eff out of the training system.

Kinda related to OP:
The grind to combat 3 needs fixing. Grinding denteks/whatever is boring as hell and never gets any better, I've seen numerous newbs quit due to this during the promo so far...

And yes, they do seem to be getting stupider these days. The static queen defenders don;t even fire back these days...

I completely agree with basically everything that has been said here. I was helping a friend get into the game, and he got bored about 500hp into level 1. It takes some serious commitment to get to level 3 (after that it's decently easy if you talk to anyone)... and as most people don't sub immediately, it could use some fixing. The newbie sectors are freaking spectacular... maybe have a mission that can give them some combat practice/hp inside it?

I was actually thinking this may be something of a job for the PCC. I hadn't really thought of anything in particular though. And I've strayed a bit off topic (though my friend's boredom came in part from the fact that the bots he was shooting at didn't do much)... but you get the idea.

I checked it once more. I have just shot down about one hundred of Artemis Collectors and they did not even noticed I am there. I think this should be fixed.

I checked a static queen in Dau.... they did not even respond when I shot the queen. They just followed the queen around whill I shot them all.

Whatever is running the hive might be getting messed up.

We changed a few things, recently, in the AI code, for performance reasons. AFAIK, it should really only affect capships, but I'll look at the stuff reported here. It would be helpful if people indicated how long each issue has been that way (as far as you know).

I haven't started a new char is a looong time. My friend was starting his char saturday (nov 14). EDIT: the botting took place in Itan.

In both cases, I posted right after trying so dates correspond. Each try took tens of minutes.

I can check out static bots, and if their behaviour is normal. Perhaps I can add another flock to some of the static sectors, that doesn't mine and just patrols looking for enemies.

It's kind of a tough happy-medium to find the right balance of "easy". So many people find our flight model to be challenging to begin with. But, the training sectors have probably smoothed that out a bit, so maybe the "static" sectors should be made a little more intense.

I understand what you say about balance incarnate but, as of now, they do not attack or reply to attack at all.

Taking down queen's escort one by one with no reply from the bots looks weird and players should earn their xps for something.

hell, just make the collectors non aggressive, but still try to defend themselves. they don't come after you, but if you shoot them, they shoot back.

oh and as for the queen's escorts, they should immediately start passing out the ass kicking.

Aye check out the escort for the static Queens. Its like they are in a deep suicidal depression. They dont even respond when you shoot the queen.

cool, finally i can kill things with training blasters

ROTFL

actually, no, im going to get an XC and try and mush them against rocks.

Perhaps I can add another flock to some of the static sectors, that doesn't mine and just patrols looking for enemies.

+1

Have a flock that patrols from sector to sector within a system, it would be cool.

How About they fix the bots that are there already first? :P