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Point of Station Conquest Clarification

Mar 28, 2010 Aticephyr link
From the update:
Other features will be appearing, making conquering and holding all three stations a lucrative prospect.

What does it mean to "hold" all three stations? If you have a user key to all three stations, are you considered to be "holding" all the stations? Or just "having access" or "visiting" all the stations?

Thanks in advance!
Mar 28, 2010 PaKettle link
I dont think he meant that holding all three at once would give a bonus... I think he meant that all three of the stations would have thier own individual benefits to ownership.
Mar 28, 2010 Aticephyr link
Interesting interpretation. Dev clarification (even if it's just "we haven't decided yet") would be greatly appreciated.
Mar 28, 2010 raybondo link
Having the Owner Key of all three stations at the same time is what is meant.
Mar 28, 2010 Strat link
Why not give these benefits to people who have user keys to all 3 stations? The only benefit of being an owner as opposed to a user should be the ability to distribute keys. Or owners at least should be able to extend benefits to users as an option.
Mar 29, 2010 Aticephyr link
+1 Strat.

So far Owner keys have been kept pretty close to the chest by conquering forces' officers for obvious security reasons. Unless the lucrative prize for "holding" all stations can be divided / distributed, I'll put in my vote for user keys counting has holding (or allowing owners to extend benefits as part of the key).
Mar 29, 2010 incarnate link
There will be both. Some will be intended for officer usage, effectively (leadership personnel). Other benefits will be more generalized.
Mar 29, 2010 Breazle link
is the owner of a station the first person to dock or does that persons corp become the owner? Cause its not like the first person to dock did all the work by themselves
Mar 29, 2010 Strat link
Breazle, the first person to dock is the first owner. That person can then give out owner keys to as many people as they want, who can also give out owner keys, etc...
Mar 29, 2010 Maalik link
Um, Strat, if the first person to dock reactivates a keychain on which they don't have owner key, does an owner key for that person get magically added?
Mar 29, 2010 endercp12 link
heh thats a pretty wierd what if, but definately a hole in the system that i never personally thought of

perhaps rather then owner key linked it should be part of the given privileges that would require there to be more then one user key however
Mar 29, 2010 incarnate link
It's not a hole, it's a design intention. Such that non-guild leadership could take a station, and still assign ownership to the guild leadership. If people want to give away ownership to a recently conquered station, more power to them. They can also opt to use a private owner key and a pre-existing user key if they choose.
Mar 29, 2010 Strat link
It's not a hole, it's a design intention. Such that non-guild leadership could take a station, and still assign ownership to the guild leadership.

Cool. I didn't know it worked that way. Very useful.

They can also opt to use a private owner key and a pre-existing user key if they choose.

What does that mean exactly? What happens if the first person to dock selects an old user key instead of an old owner key? Can you clarify?
Mar 29, 2010 incarnate link
Well, after having said all of that, I really need to talk to Ray about how it is currently implemented. You can read some of the intentions in the original RFC, but I'm honestly not sure what the currently implemented behaviour is, and will have to check.
Mar 29, 2010 peytros link
uh the only bennefit for being the station owner is going to be to distribute keys? what about setting prices on goods?
Mar 29, 2010 incarnate link
..what? From what text are you deriving that misunderstanding?
Mar 29, 2010 peytros link
from strat and atices posts
Mar 29, 2010 Strat link
Me and Atice don't decide how things work. Anyway, setting prices on goods wasn't the kind of benefit I was referring to (but that would be cool and that sort of thing is fine for just owners I think). I was thinking of special items to buy and stuff. It'd be nice for those kind of benefits to be available to users so not everyone has to have an owner key. Right now, people are planning on sharing owner keys so so everyone can get the goodies, but making certain people promise not to give any keys out. It shouldn't have to work that way, in my opinion.
Mar 30, 2010 peytros link
I never said you and atice decide anything but there really needs to be more of a reason to own a station