Personally I don't think a space mmog should take the "cookie cutter approach" . What made E&B unique was the ship designs for each race were unique to that race . Its a small thing but it goes a long ways to show you are trying to appeal to the gamers .

There are nation specific ships, as well as faction specific ones. you just have to be well loved. I seriously doubt you are topping 900 in standing with the groups in question, so really. You're not even trusted with them. :)

in ENB we had better ship customization, let us at least colour the entire ship, not just a single stripe going along the side.

1.) Don't judge the entire game by your experience with the lowest level bus. Other ships can be colored completely, like the vulture.

2.) If all you want is an ENB replacement you're in the wrong place. Vendetta is a unique game with unique gameplay. That's what makes it good. Please do not judge it based on specifics of something unrelated.

You have to realise magnus, that enB had some excellent features, alot of the enB'rs here are just trying to suggest the stuff in EnB that worked well that could be implemented, theres alot of stuff in alot of games that works well that could be implemented, EnB had its fair share of bad things but its ship custmisation options were extremly good allowing you to individually colour upto 8 seperate parts of the ship indivdually, as well as using decals, metalic colours and having ship names. this was an excellent feature that I think would be cool in 'any' game. VO s a great game and could only benefit from such a cool ability :-)

How's this:

Neutral Maud
Serco Prometheus
Itani Valkyrie

Excuse my spelling, that's why I didn't write the full name for the Maud. Maurauder? Meh. Anyways, my point is there are ships that are, let's say, the property of, their nation, but at a certain level and with enough standing they can be available to anyone, depending on wether they want it or not. And I say this in every post where you compare this to other games (especially Jumpgate and Earth and Beyond): we are NOT aiming to be exactly like other games. It's originality. So, please stop saying that alot of the things in EnB and JG should be implemented. It's fine for suggestions, but the Devs already have in mind what they are going to do with Vendetta. Speach over.

-Eloi D'Acrayel

I've noyiced idea' seemed to get accepted more on these boards if the words enB, Eve or Jumpgate arn't mentioed in the post, you have to realise people are making sugestions for things that would add to the games playing experiance, to me it seems there is some negativity to the other games atm, the players from other games arn't trying to bash VO, they are trying to help, and some people need to realise that :-)

(admitidly, some players need to top trying to turn the game in EnB, eve and Jumpgate as well) :-)

For all those who are complaing how much Vendetta is NOT like E&B, remember this:

Don't forget why you are here in the first place.

for one the only reason enb is down is because of corperate blunders, EA trying to wipe wahts left of westwood away and absolutely no advertizing. Secondly when did eves uniform screensav..err ships have any custom style color or anyting else for that matter?

It's fine for suggestions, but the Devs already have in mind what they are going to do with Vendetta. Speach over.

Then why the heck did they even create a sugestions forum??? :P

I dont believe anyone is seriously trying to turn Vendetta into any of the other games mentioned. I believe it is simply a case of if something works and enables Vendetta to become a better game for all, does it really matter if the idea came from somewhere else ?

/me smacks this thread back on topic.

The devs have said that in the future, being part of a nation will involve more variation than just ship choice. As a matter of fact, they've said that eventually, all the current ship designs will be replaced save the Marauder, Prometheus, and Valkyrie.

Quoth Incarante in another thread: "We wrote the backstory with all nations having unique ships back when we thought we'd have more people on the team. There will be unique ships eventually."

The devs are aware of the mild suckitude of the situation, and will work to correct it when they can.

What is the model format for the ships, .dfx? If something else, what? What program is being used to create them? Would submition of models be accepted?

i think that would be a cool idea. a ship contest. they take the top 5 or 10 ships, and give the winners like 1 mil in game credits or like 2 weeks free after release

.... but I like my vulture. Don't take it away. ;.;

If i read the backstory and with a millenium of separate evolution how can it be that both Itani and Serco ships are the same?

But maybe this will be changed when the game goes into launch and we are just playing a shell of the real game "real story" just to keep it intresting when it goes "live" I sure hope so it took a little while to read the Backstory but i advise it to everyone its a good read and puts things in prospective.

Kai: We had one of those. Just not quite completely official.

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/3861
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/4222
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/4835
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/1/4884
http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/4885

I know they use 3dsmax for modeling their ships, i think when they remodel them they should atleast keep the current ship designs but revamp them, like this revamp of the bus perhaps?

http://img2.exs.cx/img2/9565/bus2.jpg
(Note: Textures not applyed on model)

also the ships definatly need models for all the weapons so you can see what a player has equiped when you see them :-)

Oh no. You did not just change the Bus. No my friend. We just don't dishonor the EC series like that around here.

As much as I realise the bus has many followers for sentimental reasons, it really is butt ugly and a huge turnoff as the first ship a players see's when entering the game. I think the only reason people except atm are because they know the game is in beta. Sadly when the PC magizines review the game and get confronted by the bus when they log in, I fear it could give a bad impression of the game. Same with the general gaming populas, atm its acceptable as the games in beta, but once its live people arn't so forgiving :-/