the latest update to the UDV was cool, i got to admit that. i've been testing it out a little over the past months anyway and noticed three things:

- the 2 large ports made it a lot cooler
- it cant move as smoothly anymore (including the turn and chase which it should be very good at)
---> the upper leads to even easier rocket eating.

the udv is also supposed to be a chaser. since the nature of heavy weapons means that they add a good bunch of weight to your ship, i suggest the thrust be adjusted so it fits the 2 large ports of the UDV. and increase the armor if you aren't going to reduce its profile by atleast 20%

example of increased values:

Thrust: 215 --> 220
Turbo Thrust: 300 ---> 350
Spin Torque: 8.5 Nm ----> 9.5 Nm
Armor: 10500 ---> 12000

Wtf are you trying to chase with? gatling and swarms? Megaposis weigh the same as their s-port cousins and the UDV hauls those around like a champ.

This ship is great how it is.

-1 to attempting to give uit military hardware on par with nations that are locked in an actual war with standing militaries.

-1. A fighter with TWO large ports. What more could you ask for? Go kill some queens already...

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+1 to some but not all suggested buffs. If someone like myself can hold their own against a player who has been active in PvP combat for years, then imo, it could use a buff

i think the problem he has is that 7 sunflares (which not rarely come in pairs anyway...) can take down the UDV Raptor. this wouldnt be bad if it wasn't super-easy to do because that ship has a profile so big you could hit it with your eyes closed. bring your UIT alts to b8, i'll quickly show you... rzzzrrt

+1 to giving this ship a bunch more armor OR finally reducing it's fat profile.

and i'm tired of reading crap like that, Darth Ender. No one is asking for "Military ships for UIT". it is about improving the UITs ship into the direction it is meant to be anyway. it is supposed to be a decent interceptor with respectable nose to nose fighting capabilities. right now it is the first, but not the last considering sunflares are a common PvP weapon.

I dont think it should have been given the dual large ports either. The suggested buffs would put the ship (aside from the model's dimensions) equivalent to a valk x1. No.

They're a trading directed and neutral nation. If you want access to something that wreaks military go to a corp or nation with an actual military. If UIT just wants something nation specific that they can call their own, then they should have something similar to a moth miner mk2 for their marauder only with maybe extended rader builtin so they can see hostile ships ahead of time and plan accordingly.

The UIT's faction specific ship should be trade oriented because that's what the UIT faction does. The defensive capabilities of the UIT were handled by the member corporations and access to those ships is not limited to the UIT nation, but standing within those factions.

Players looking for exclusivity in a combat ship can choose Itani or Serco as their nation.

haha Darth. vrzzztt...

UIT is the trading faction. yup. but if you want to be any successful, you have to be able to buy spacecraft capable of taking on attackers that might want to steal your valuable trade goods aswell as taking on people trying to take over your territories or pirating in them etc. etc.

and no. it wouldnt be on par with the valk x1. i dont see any large ports on the x1. just small. even three of them. the raptor has 2. large ones, also. no similarities if you ask me.

to the last point: ok lets be Darth Eder-strict: lets limit good standing with UIT sub-factions and their Special spacecraft to UIT pilots only. haha.

The UIT nation specific ship should be trade centric. Their citizens have access to various combat ships if they feel the need to. They dont need a faction exclusive combat ship. Faction exclusive ships aren't intended to be a "I win" ship (and they are far from it, since you can regularly take out valks or proms in ships anyone can purchase), they're meant to give some means of identity to the factions. By making UIT's exclusive ship a combat ship, you ignore UIT's intended identity.

I think the playerbase is just fine with UIT's combat ability since roughly 50% of everyone in the game week to week is UIT. Faction exclusive ships need to be used as a means to differentiate the factions, not homogenize them.

wow, i need to go to the emergency room to remove all the facepalms darthender made me stick to my face.

i see nothing in this description that says uit players cant have good combat ships:

The Union of Independent Territories is a loosely knit union of corporations, merchants and explorers clinging to life in deep space. They are widely revered as innovators, as life without a homeworld has called for truly unique advances in space station and ship construction technology. However, this societal structure has also made UIT space a haven for pirates, unscrupulus merchants, and the results of autonomous technological experiments gone awry. Like the Itani, the UIT has occasionally fallen under the ill graces of the Serco. However, many UIT merchants have highly advantageous trade agreements with the Serco government, so past affronts are often overlooked.

nothing in that description says they would have advanced combat ships, in fact it does everything to suggest that the only ships they'd have from combat would be those provided through the various corporations that make up the UIT, the UIT itself centers around merchant trading between the Serco and Itani nations.

The nation specific ships should reflect the nation and provide some uniqueness in regards to what someone who is nationalist would find advantageous. UIT nationalists should be joining UIT to be traders between serco and itani. Serco nationalists should be joining Serco to fight the itani, and vice versa for Itani nationalists.

The nationalist exclusive ships are there to provide some added amount of differentiation to the nations. Not to be the best combat ship etc.

As far as combat ships goes the x1 and prom get taken out by ships accessible to players at half their license requirements and much less expensive all the time, there is no point in dilluting the differences between factions by making UIT's exclusive ship a stupid combat ship when it ought to be something that promotes the different role UIT has available in the VO universe that the other two dont really have.

The ship is very powerful in the right hands as it is. Not our fault your traders can't use it right ;)
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+1 cellsafemode

Once again, I argue that the Behemoth XC should be UIT exclusive.

"Once again, I argue that the Behemoth XC should be UIT exclusive."

Another thread.. man.

Once again, I argue that the Behemoth XC should be UIT exclusive.

Then only UITs can build tridents. Give the UIT a new moth variant close to what the XC is now but with a cargo capacity of 220.

I was being sarcastic ;)

Militaristic non-UIT factions don't need to build tridents. If people want logistical gameplay, they should join a nation of traders instead of nations locked into a millenia-long war of idiocy who are dependent on a third party to perform most of the engineering that allows them to continue their futile and self-destructive struggles.

(Yay sarcasm.)

+1 Rin

UIT should be able the only ones allowed to build capships and they also should be allowed to sell them to other factions.

Now Fluff could ye please go back to werk on my Jolly Roger Terradon Frigate. Thank ye.