the ec-111

proposed/ec-107

armor 9000/6800
cargo 6cu/12cu
weapons 3 small/2 small
mass 3000/3700
length 10m/10m
thrust 220/210
speed 70/65
spin torque 7.0/7.0
max turbo 220/210
turbo thrust 220N/220N
turbo drain 50/50

decent 3 small weapons platform can't run as fast as a valk has less armor then the base version and 100 more then a vulturious. Also I know it can have 3 small ports cause the 107 doesn't have that one on the nose on the front.

so sell it at corvus or ineubis.

oh yeah make the requirements the same as it is for the corvult plus maybe KOS with a nation? :P

XX has no ships atm.

The EC-107 has a badge requirement, and this ship looks like a much better fighter. Maybe Bus Hunter for it, too, along with your specified requirements?

I like the idea of a ship that requires being KOS to get.

use the EC-88 model and bump the mass up to 8500.

I do believe that the Bus already has more variants than any other ship in the game. Half of them are never used. Furthermore, the most elite of the existing variants have 2 ports, which is acceptable since the ship generally only has 1. Three s ports is overkill.

I vote no.

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pey, +1 to idea.

Still some more suggestions:
1. it would be great if requirements to get it will be tri-KOS (or at least hated to major factions).
2. make 100 bus kills instead of 50 required
3. please, make it more cargo to hold, I'd love to see it with 16 cargo hold for pirating.
4. Leave the price as for EC-107
5. Leave the speed 65
6. Leave mass 3700 and armor 7k, no need to make another one valk.
7. Sell it at XX/Ineub/Corvus
8. Grab design from EC-88?

yarr!! w00t suggestion anyways

+1

I'd like to see the ancient Wraith and EC88 as pirate ships. It requires that you are KoS with 2 nations.

Despite looking old and outdated, those are retrofitted with more modern scarvenged parts, as engines, resulting in better performance.

-1 to 3s port bus.
+1 to "old" pirate ships

Why would you say no to a 3 small port bus if you have to have dual nation Los to get it. We need more 3 small platforms to go with the additional addons that are not available.

I agree that we need a good multi-nation KoS ship, but I don't think it should be a bus, and definitely not an 88. :p

I thought it was established that the EC-107 was already pushing its design limits to the max, I don't think I want it to become a maud replacement :(

I Believe this is what your looking for:

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I say sure to KOS required ships... But before we start into it all lets get more weapons and models to make things with. Actually Alloh had a kind of good idea. Be cool to see old rusty wraiths with upgraded turbo and engines etc. and perhaps we could use the hornet model for something like this... Get rid of the Orion variant, and all others and have it as a complete corvus ship. It's useless anyway so why not make something out of it. The hornet used to be the gold teams light fighter, the vulture being reds, and cent being blue... (long time ago). Its kind of saddening that the centurion and vulture still have a place as a light fighter and now the hornet is just a fat slow piece of junk noone uses anyway (except maybe rails). give it redemption!

@OP: why?

-1 E09... isn't the maud good enough?

the specs you mention, even if reduced to a single weapon port, would still be completely overkill. It is more unbalancing than a valk.

drain 50, accelerates like a valk, combat speed of rev-c, less mass than rev-c, etc...

i.e. a complete monster.

Why not? We need more ships especially ones with more ports to accomodate more addons granted they could be used for weapons bit this thing still has thin armor (only 100 more then a corvult bit much easier To hit)

Roda I don't think it would be a beast I have been flying the 107 and this just has one more port

You ripped out a quarter of it's mass. making it maneuver and accelerate way to fast.

you left it infini boost while making it 220, which would make it the only fighter that is.

you gave it a combat speed of 70, ranking it with the 4 "top gun" fighters.

you increased it's max turbo. you increased it's armor. did you leave a single thing untouched?

I occasionally see the ec107 used in combat. enhancing an ec107 even slightly would make it more common. some of your changes when taken even alone would make a very unbalanced ship. all of them put together is absurd.

stop beating around the bush and just ask for a superbus.

i'll address these one bye one

You ripped out a quarter of it's mass. making it maneuver and accelerate way to fast.

this is valid I wouldn't mind upping it to 3200 or something like that but there are still ships that weigh less then 3000kg

you left it infini boost while making it 220, which would make it the only fighter that is.

actually many ships can infiboost at 220 (hog, rag, hornet, taur) if that is such an issue for you 210 is fine but reduces its chasing ability maybe 215?

you gave it a combat speed of 70, ranking it with the 4 "top gun" fighters.

my biggest gripe with the game is that almost all ships go 65m/s I wish there were more ships that went 70-75 I do not think that the extra 5m/s is overpowering it.

you increased it's max turbo. you increased it's armor. did you leave a single thing untouched?

the 107 does not have enough armor to make it worth being kos and having the same requirements as a corvult to get imo.

also if you are going to compare it to the rev c at least mention their relative size differences and mass differences. the 111 is only 100kg lighter and with a third port (as long as it is utilized would be heavier then a rev c) the ec model is also bigger then the centurions in game.

but there are still ships that weigh less then 3000kg

The IDF valk is the only ship that weighs >3000kgs, I think.

if that is such an issue for you 210 is fine but reduces its chasing ability maybe 215?

So it's a chaser-fighter now? One valk is enough.

since OP he is asking for a rat-only mini-valk...

If that KoS passes, will be the only "exclusive" ship in VO.

But I still like the minivalk/miniprom variants using the old ships. But forget EC88. Use only Wraiths, make one lighter with 3S, another more armoured, sell it in Corvus and done!

Until we have real restrictions on Valks/Proms and rule out 3PoS, that KoS is a no-go. Instead, make it require Corvus PoS, or at least 800.

Maybe serco copy it and have their valk...