Hello, aside from those who have been in the #vo irc, or in game with channel 100. You will never have heard of me. ;) Ive now been playing the game for three days now starting with the 8 hour trial and then finding and signing up with the 21 day trial. Needless to say, I'm sure I'll be here for a while. :)

That aside, I'm posting since I noticed that a few hours ago a spanish speaking player came into the game confused as what to do, now he understood enough english to were he could understand this and get started with the tutorials. However he later asked if there was an option to get the tutorial in another language. After searching the forums and coming up dry I decided to ask in game again and it turns out that this is not the case.

As we spoke the idea came up that one would be able to contribute a translated version of the tutorials so that this might be available for those who do have a better grasp of the spanish language as opposed to the english language. Who might I contact about this?

In my time playing the game, Ive enjoyed it very much and would be happy to translate the tutorials into spanish so that others would also have the chance to enjoy VO.

No. Absolutely not. The entire game is played in English, and the community is far too small to allow players to begin speaking other languages in-game. If you can't read English well enough to follow the tutorial, you won't be able to do any of the missions or understand players who are attempting to interact with you either, which breaks the "massively multiplayer" part of the game.

Actually that is quite wrong.... most people that can speak english well enough to interact usually are able to do so quite easily. The only thing that the tutorial would do is fascilite a rudimentary understanding of the game.

Once this is done, the player would then be able to figure out for themselves the missions, since it is relatively easy to understand the concept of kill x, collect y. Or take item a to point b.

Now as you have said, the community is too small as it is. So this would allow it to grow, and as it is the "massively multi-player" is broken already for those who have understand english but do not have it as a primary language.

*EDIT*
Now on second note, are you trying to troll me? I just noticed your name, "ladrón" at least is the word for thief or burglar. As well as a mountain in New Mexico (ladrón peak)

Nice suggestion Chibi, agree 100% with u

Chibi, there was a project to create an online (web-based) "player introduction" page. A relatively simple page with graphics that would help show a new player how to get started in VO and where to go from there. The plan was to then translate this page into a variety of languages.

The creation and translation of said page was a project of our Player Contribution Corps (PCC). They've started on it a couple of times, but I'm not sure if they've ever completed anything. If you're interested in helping, though, joining the PCC would be the place to start.

Eventually, having the game's tutorials itself translated might also be a good thing. But there are limitations, as we can't easily support characters other than those common to english. This makes a lot of languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian, not to mention occasional characters used in Portuguese and Spanish) somewhat problematic, at least until we do some more work on our in-game fonts.

A webpage, at least, would be pretty simple, and would hopefully provide players with a place to start.

Saw the page for the PCC, sadly as it is I am short of the 25 hour limit to join. I will however keep this in mind. :)

As for the spanish language... you could still get away with that if you wanted to, and though it may still look crude since you'd be missing a few letters.

That being said, short of creating a new character is there any way to go over logs for old missions (more specifically the tutorial missions?). I figure that until I get am able to join the PCC, I could begin translating these. So that the ideas and concepts could easily be edited a bit, or perhaps just transferred onto the page in order to provide a printable, or perhaps some sort of walk through/guide for the missions as the individual plays.

Anyways, thank you for your response incarnate and also thank you for helping to make such a wonderful game possible. :)

No. Too many players are English language challenged already, no need to encourage that particular demographic.

Seems to me though, that a lot of these "english challenged" players are the variety which seem to be struggling with conquering their first language though. Sadly there is no way to weed out those, since they would with a 99.9% certainty have no understanding of another language anyway aside from "leet speak" or whatever you wish to call it.

I´d be glad to help in the Spanish translation.

Actually, I´m translating the backstory. You can see it here:

http://vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/9/17749

Its an ongoing project.

[A] lot of these "english challenged" players are the variety which seem to be struggling with conquering their first language though.

Oh, of this there is no doubt.

Sadly there is no way to weed out those

I disagree.

Well then, by all means weed them out and we can get back to making the game accessible to people who do speak a genuine language. :)

Good observation: ladron does indeed mean thief. The fact that I speak Spanish means that I am more qualified to say that having a Spanish tutorial is a Bad Idea.

Re: The starting VO page. I got it about 95% done, screenshots, page layout and all, and haven't had time to complete it. Maybe over the holiday.

You can't base this soley on the idea that you do speak spanish. Since I also speak spanish as well and am of the opinion that it would help. (IE whether one speaks a language or not should have no bearing on whether it is a good idea or not.)

Rather if you do not help with the effort to translate it when you can, when it would serve to increase the player base would only indicate at most that your are either unwilling to help, or perhaps just lazy :x

Other people as well, including those that may or may not speak another language also think it to be a good idea. At least as expressed in game.

Let's convert all the text to <xml> tags and load/replace languages as needed! It'll be GREAT!

OK, sorry, I'll leave now.

(Chib - I proposed something similar YEARS ago for foreign language switching and was laughed out of the forums. I have never fully recovered from the shame.)

Ah, well I see. I am glad at least that I am not the only one with the desire to do this.

As for shame..... what's shame again? ;)

Ladron, there is nothing heinously evil about offering localized tutorials. Also, we've had influxes of people from other countries for years, with people speaking other languages in chat. They come and go (russians for awhile, polish, japanese). While localizing the entire game is too big of an ordeal for now (although one that has been considered), helping people native to other languages get a handle on shooting stuff is not a bad thing.

"Heinously evil" and "the wrong choice" are two different things, inc. I don't think that offering localized tutorials is an offense worthy of death by firing squad, but it would lead to fragmentation of the community and cause a great deal of frustration among potential customers who take a tutorial in their native language and then expect to be able to interact in that language throughout the game.

Face the facts:

1) Internet is WORLD-wide.
2) MMORPG must have MANY players for deserving 1st "M"
3) Lots of players TODAY does not say/type a word while playing. Most of them, indeed.
4) There ARE channels for languages in VO's IRC

Seems so clear to me that providing translations to other languages would only benefit VO's universe.
(More players >> revenue >> development, so on.)

OR make VO a closed universe, where to be accepted you must be inquired by a counsil of old players and trolls.

That stated, where do I start to help?

ideas:
-Ask the native language AND english understing level on subscription form, and subscribe channels according, like if player A says only speak X and no english, while B speaks X and english, A's characteres subscribe X language primary and 100 listening, while B's gets 100 as primary and X as listen. "/join list"

-Localized tutorials provide some pay to translator, as subscription, once confirmed good.

-Localization developed on foruns or wiki, and requires revision from other native speakers for adoption.

-All adopted localized tutorials/missions to include minimal "english space communication", like "pay me".

-RP: English is the official language since contact lost with old Earth. You are advised to only use english on /100. If you want to talk on your planet's native language, use /join list then /join #